Talk:Coney Island
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Moved from article because of copyright concerns, and because they're closer to promotion than anything encyclopedic:
From a Souvenir Folder (postcard folder) of the 1930s:
Coney Island is one of the most famous playgrounds in the world. Located in New York City at the eastern end of Brooklyn at the mouth of the Atlantic. It is about five miles in length and about three-quarters of a mile in width. Accessible by fast Subway, Street Cars and Busses and Excursion Steamers.
It is not unusual to find over 1,000,000 people spending their Sundays or Holidays at this Amusement and Bathing Resort. The Boardwalk is second to none.
Among the many famous places of Amusement at the Island, are Steeplechase Park and Luna Park. There are many exhibits and side shows which are procured at great expense, showing rare freaks of nature and daring feats of skill.
These and other amusement spots at Coney Island attract large crowds throughout the season which usually runs from Easter Sunday until the middle of September. The Grand Finale of the season usually ends with a Mardi-Gras which lasts a week. Each night a pageant is held with floats and spectacles which are very impressive and colorful and a Carnival spirit prevails.
From Fortune Magazine, August 1938, "To Heaven by Subway"
"[Coney Island] is the home of sixty bathhouses, two big amusement parks (Steeplechase and Luna), seventy "ball" games, thirteen carrousels, eleven roller coasters [see http://home.nyc.rr.com/johnmiller/ci_tbolt.html], five tunnel rides, three fun houses, two waxworks, six penny arcades, twenty shooting galleries, three freak shows, a variety of other games, rides, shows, and souvenir shops, and some 200 eating establishments--more than 500 separate enterprises in violent and continual conflict--perhaps the greatest concentration of independent little businesses in the world." Vicki Rosenzweig 22:12 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] Name of Coney Island
An anon, in good faith, believes that Coney Island is named after the island of the same name in Ireland. He cites a PBS story[1].
First, PBS is not famed for doing a very thorough job on local history. Their primary source for this claim is a 1924 "document." They don't state what the "document" is, but it is ill placed to "prove" anything about the name of Coney Island. Also, the article gives a bunch of explanations, they just end with the Irish island one because apparently that is the most colorful. I am altering the claim to accurately reflect the contents of the article. The bald claim that the other explanations are wrong and it is named after the Irish Coney Island is unsupportable. -- Cecropia 06:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Correction: the 1924 "document" is for a different claim, that Coney is named for a "Konoh (Bear) Tribe." The claim that it is named for the Irish Island is a popular legend in Sligo, Ireland, where "that" Coney Island is, and the claim is from an article in the local newspaper. -- Cecropia 16:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up and NPOV
This article needs a clean up and an NPOV check. A quick run through found NPOV statements such as "Coney Island's excellent and sun-drenched beach remains a major attraction." Páll (Die pienk olifant) 09:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bumper Cars
The section on bumper cars is pretty rediculous and not encyclopedic at all. I would clean it up, but I don't even know where to start. Someone should have a look at it. Papercrab 21:41, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
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- I tackled it. It was complete POV and sexist to boot. I only edited the amusements section though; I couldn't figure out how to work with the rest. DanielEng 18:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Coney Island plane crash
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The article Coney Island plane crash was nominated for deletion. The debate was closed on 5 October 2006 with a consensus to merge the content into Coney Island. If the merger is not completed promptly, Coney Island plane crash might be re-nominated for deletion.
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Although I am not sure that this isn't better left as its own article, if the consensus was that it be merged here I don't have a problem with that - I'll do it, so the information they gathered isn't lost, and if further discussion here results in not wanting it in this article, it can easily be removed. Oddly enough, I live in NY and have no recollection of this accident, from just last year. Tvoz 22:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
HOwever, when I went to do it, the original aricle had much too much detail for this article, so I boiled it down to a few sentences - and I am not convinced that it belongs here. I set up a section called "Accidents", thinking if anyone wants to research and write up something about roller coaster accidents at Coney Island, that could work - but as it is now, I think this is not all that appropriate for this more general article about COney Island. Any thoughts? Tvoz 23:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Oppose merge and deletion - it belongs where it has now been placed in Aviation accidents and incidents in 2005. Please leave it in place with all other aircraft accident articles. Ardfern 23:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Fine with me - I didn't think it belonged here anyway, as per above. But the proposed merge and deletion was talking about a separate article for the COney crash which we were asked to merge here - I don't see an article named Aviation accidents and incidents in 2005 but maybe the name is slightly different. Tvoz | talk 23:40, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Peninsula
Just out of curiosity, how is Coney Island formerly an island as I am guessing that it wasn't dragged by ships to be attached to the mainland. Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but I am from Britain not the USA so we're not really knowledgable about specific areas of the US.
Thanks v. much in advance! --Xsamix 17:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was filled. Gravesend Bay and Sheepshead Bay were once joined by a channel, now filled in. Several former small islands in New York including Furman and Belmont Islands had garbage, earth and other filler material dumped into the waterway, and built over. Randalls Island and Wards Island still have separate names, but are no longer physically separated. Do some British cities have similar former islands? Jim.henderson 18:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
