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[edit] MySpace

Someone can confirm if this guy had a Myspace profile? I found it the other day looking HP groups and turn out that all kind in HP movies (tom, emma, rupert and daniel) have a myspace profile. its true, its their real profile, or just some jerk? thanks! --ometzit 09:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It's just some jerk. Daniel has gone to great lengths to repeatedly emphasise that he does not interact with his fans online via any means whatsoever. Do not believe any site or person who sets themselves up as being Dan online unless it is an official Warner Brothers event publicised on the official WB Harry Potter website. --Deeee 01:05, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House Prices?

Is there any point in having the bit about house prices in the article? It is (a) uncertain if this is meant to be expensive or cheap (in the context of Fulham) and (b) likely to vary rapidly (and when is "currently" anyway)? -- I suggest we delete that bit. -- SGBailey 23:15 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

I made a small attempt to tidy the article up a while back, and there were a few things I thought seemed a bit silly, including the bit about the "£730,000 home", but I usually leave things alone unless I can think of a better replacement. The only reference I can find right now for the statement is a profile on a fan site called "The Radcliffe Realm", which says, "Home: £730,000 house in Fulham, W.London, England, UK - postcode: SW6". It probably comes from some newspaper article originally, but without a better reference and a timeframe it should probably go regardless of whether it has a point or not. However, I think it would become quite interesting if verified and put into context, as it would give some idea of the type of background he came from before he became a millionaire. -- Oliver PEREIRA 00:11 Jan 23, 2003 (UTC)
If Mr. Radcliffe's house price is to be mentioned, perhaps we could also add that he goes to City of London School (CLS), and that his 'classmates' are known to throw items at him, shouting "magic that away, wizard boy!"? Similarly inane comments seem somewhat out of place in an encyclopaedia... BTW, house prices in SW6 might be of some interest for purposes of house-price contrast.
-- jdforrester 23:42 Apr 18, 2003 (BST)

Thanks for that link, Mr. Forrester. I think since the sentence about Mr. Radcliffe's house and dogs has no timeframe, and can't be entirely confirmed from reliable sources, I'll move it here for now, until I can think of something better to do with it. (The family currently live in a £730,000 home in Fulham, a suburb of London, with two border collies named Binka and Nugget.) However, I disagree that information about his background is "inane". His education would certainly be a good thing to include, and I'd put the name of his school into the article, except that I can't find a reference for it. I don't suppose you could cite one, could you? If you don't want me to put it in, you can always decline to answer, but I think it would be interesting. -- Oliver P. 12:31 25 May 2003 (UTC)

Whoops, this is what happens when you don't watch a page that others reply to. No, I don't have a reference per se, I know people who are schoolmates of him...
James F. 17:06 10 Jun 2003 (UTC)
... and, for the record, my 'sources' report that Mr. Radcliffe has now moved school, from CLS to UCS, (alledgedly) due to bullying.
80.177.8.205 12:02 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

It doesn't matter about how much Dan's house costs, does it? All that matters is that his stunning performance in the Harry Potter films completely makes up for all the shortcomings of the Harry Potter films, right? lol Ann 03:56, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] His middle name

This article says Daniel Jacob Radcliffe, IMDb says Daniel Alan Radcliffe. Which one is correct? Google doesn't seem to give a definite answer either. Apparently one of them is a widespread misconception; the question is: which one? — Timwi 16:13, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)


DanRadcliffe.co.uk states clearly that Dan's middle name is Jacob. The site is regarded as one of the 'official' Dan websites and I imagine Dan or his father would have pointed out any error in his name by now. So Jacob it is. — Dee 08:17, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unnecessary trivia?

"He is currently single (6/05)"... Mayhaps its just me, but for an entry on a not yet sixteen year-old actor, this strikes me as both unnecessary (apart from truly high profile cases that have made the tabloids, it seems most wiki actor entries don't necessarily stress if any living actor is currently single, let alone give a date for that status) and just a tad unnerving. Any thoughts on this? Aleal 2 July 2005 15:56 (UTC)

"Yea I agree the comment on the fact that “Daniel is currently single” is out of place. The guy is what 15 - 16 years of age? ... Two years from it be would be somewhat reasonable. However at this point to publish such things is just ridiculous. I just hope that fame won’t spoil him or his life, because he’s a normal person just like all of us.” Maria 12 July 2005 1:54 (GMT-05:00)

Totally agree that Dan's current 'single' status is just a sad reflection of what we have come to expect from the tabloids. Leave it out. This entry should be about his career, not lewd speculation on how much his house is worth, his love life or (worst of all), whether he was bullied at school. Dear God, the boy is under enough scrutiny as it is. Can't we respect his privacy here in what is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, a collection of facts, not a collection of sordid and trivial gossip? Dee 08:39, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

He probably does have a girlfriend, but it's really none of our business... Ann 03:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Please don't. Whoever a 16-year-old is dating is of no encyclopedic consequence. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Dan's love life is an unnecessary trivia especially as he has so many fangirls and is being linked to some starlets/girls. What I want to see instead is his acting awards and nominations. He has so many eversince the first Harry Potter movie that I was surprised not to see them here.203.168.9.113 22:41, 28 December 2005 (UTC) Jandee

[edit] Editing Dates

If there is an event in this persons life that you are sure that is going to happen (i.e, movie involvment or releases), put them in the past tense. If you are unsure if the event is going to take place, it would be better to leave out said event until it does happen. Never do encyclopedias say "currently", "soon to be", or "will . . ."

  • That's because encyclopedias are not ever-updating in the way Wikipedia is. Putting a future event in the past tense is simply a lie. Zafiroblue05 06:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Is it really necessary to have two photos of him? Considering how short this article is, it seems like too much - especially since one is right on top of the other. One photo should either be moved farther down the page (maybe next to his filmography?) or removed all together. --Hazey Jane 06:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

    • THE PICTURES ARE JUST FINE AS A MATTER OF FACT I THINK THEY SHOULD PUT MORE UP HERE.
I moved the second picture down. I forgot to write it in the edit summary so I'm writing it here. I personally think it looks better this way. --Hazey Jane 05:17, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

If u think Dan is gay then u are he doesn't appeal to gays either so if u are going to put something on the web were people can read it think before you do!Loosers

lol, and wtf? I don't remember seeing the word "gay" once in the article on Dan. Flamer.

Daniel Jacob Radcliffe own a girlfriend named _ _ _ _... Well it's hard to say bacause it isn't true. He is a very kind and respectful person and I'll always be happy for him if he would have one and hope that he would always be successful at everything.He deserves a wonderful girlfriend because I know that any girl/woman would be really lucky and happy to be with him. ___Jane___

[edit] Dan's not into Wrestling anymore

I just thought maybe you guys would like to know that...(I'm obsessed with Daniel Radcliffe) Ann 03:51, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dan to Star in Another Movie (Besides the HP films)

Dan is currently in Austraila, filming December Boys. Just thought that might be important...;]Ann 03:57, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "official" web pages

i am removing the "official" web pages, because they are obviously not official.

here are the whois entries for the two domains:

[snip]

doesn't look like dan radcliffe at all now does it? --Yoasif 23:15, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I put them back (this discussion didn't exist yet) in part because the webmasters of the co.uk site indicate they've had help from the Radcliffe family. In lieu of an actual, official site that apparently does not exist (yet?), it seemed reasonably close. If you'll check my history, you'll note that I don't make editing decisions lightly... but, thanks. RadioKirk 23:26, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
I have removed the whois information, for spamming reasons. 9cds 23:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-Official Webpages

As there is no official site, I suggest we restore the danradcliffe.co.uk & danradcliffe.com links as the next best thing. Both sites seem to be comphrehensive resources, and useful for more information, especially things that would be trivial in this entry. If noone objects within 24 hours, I'll restore the links then. Reply here or my talk. exolon 23:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

My $US0.02... I would say yes only to danradcliffe.co.uk, because the site gets information directly from the Radcliffe family—at least, so they claim, and I would think there'd be a backlash otherwise. To be honest, though, I don't see anything about danradcliffe.com that sets it apart. RadioKirk talk to me 23:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Since no-one's objected, I'm going with RadioKirk and adding back the .co.uk site. I'll try and do a NPOV title for it, and will make it clear it's not an official site. exolon 00:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Cool, that works :) RadioKirk talk to me 00:43, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
A claim of getting info from the family is BS, and you know it. These should be deleted but since you're being a freak about this article, I will let them be. Desertsky85451 18:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Please don't make personal attacks. If you have evidence the sites are fabricating the involvement of Dan & Family then present it in a calm and reasonable manner.exolon 09:23, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fanfiction site removed

I removed this site as this page is supposed to be for factual information about the actor, and I find the idea of fanfiction based on a real person disturbing. exolon 19:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel's eyes

It has come to my attention thats in the article it says that daneil Radcliffe has green eyes. I, a huge admirer has noticed that daneil radcliffe has in fact blue eyes. I just sort of figured that i should let the world know, for future reference of course. if you go to www.danradcliffe.co.uk, you can see his lovely blue eyes and notic erigth away that they are not GREEN. Thank you for tanking the ime to read this.

OH thank GOD some one else noticed that other than me!!! They should get their facts straight

how could u people think that his eyes are green, they are clearly a dark (pretty) shade of blue!

  • They probably would assume that Dan's eyes are green, since he plays Harry Potter in the movie series.

Dan was supposed to wear green contact lenses, but they irritated his eyes, so they stuck with his blue ones.Lradrama 19:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Awards"?

Is it just me, or is the "Awards" section bordering on the ridiculous? 19th place? Seriously?! RadioKirk talk to me 05:16, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Th Awards section does seem quite long. However, '19th' on a Top 25 list is worthy of mention within such a list.Osprey 10:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, a simple "made the list"-type entry would do there but, of course, that does nothing to reduce the clutter—I just used that to help illustrate the point. ;) Seriously, though, I would pare the list down to only those most notable. RadioKirk talk to me 13:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Is there a suggested number of awards or a list of awards to mention for Wikipedia articles? I mean, he could win the teensiest award by some nobody award-giver, but is that stuff posted? We need to sort out what's an honor and what are just lists of actors. -Chewbacca 09:18, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Personal List of Awards to Keep (Please Comment)

[edit] Nominations

2001

2002

  • Best Performance by a Young Actor (Saturn Awards)

2003

2004

  • Best Performance by a Young Actor (Saturn Awards)

2005

  • Best Young Actor (Critic's Choice Awards)

[edit] Wins

2000

2001

2002

  • Best Actor (Roadshow Cinema Grand Prix Awards, Japan)

2003

  • Best Film Star/Actor (Dutch Kids Choice Awards)
  • Young Celebrity of the Year (ITV Celebrity Awards)

2004

Note: Even some of these are dubious, but I'm trying to err on the side of caution (the David di Donatello Award, by the way, appears to be Italy's equivalent of the US Oscar). The only magazine reference I think should survive is Time For Kids, as Time qualifies as venerable. RadioKirk talk to me 17:48, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

Does anyone else think that the "References" section pleading us to check out the two fan sites is just in appropriate? Should it just be removed completely? Mad Jack O'Lantern 06:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, what exactly need to be sourced? Mad Jack O'Lantern 06:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
I didn't see that snuck in; I have restored it to its previous data. The congratulative self-reference violated WP:EL #s 3 and 9 and did not add to the article. RadioKirk talk to me 12:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Equus

There is no mention of Dan's upcoming stage debut. Is such news allowed to be included? --Quintopia 01:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it is in the text. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 12:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually it is in the text - but there is no valid citation. The original cite at danradcliffe.com led to no such information. Please provide a proper source reference. --T-dot 17:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Fascinating; it was there, now it's gone—all trace. Not so factual after all, perhaps? :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
This illustrates exactly the major problem with unauthorized fan-based web sites set up for celebrities. There is no accountability, no traceability, no authority - and gossip, rumours, and flat-out lies rule their world - the crazier the better. I move to rapidly strike the comments about Equus in the Radcliffe article, unless someone comes up with an authoritative source soon. --T-dot 23:06, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, and done. Unfortunate, however; the unofficial sites which claim to have assistance from the Radcliffe family need to do a better job of getting things right, and with proof, evidently... RadioKirk (u|t|c) 23:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Well perhaps now we have uncovered some proof, which is all that is required to meet the Wikipedia's requirements for verifiability - see WP:V. Can anyone authenticate this news clipping from mugglenet.com as provided by anonymous User:24.130.137.21 [1] ? I for one would not want to be known as a "fascist article editor", if there is supporting evidence to bring to the table. --T-dot 20:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Good question; Mugglenet claims the clipping to be from the Herald Sun, but all evidence of that has been clipped from the scan. Also, the Herald Sun is considered a tabloid, and I am unaware of its reputation. Perhaps some editors familiar with its rep can weigh in. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5223520.stm There's your source, right there. 68.12.100.206
THANK YOU everyone. Now that is how it is supposed to work! We don't need the name calling or angry retorts - just proper, verifiable, and reliable sources when something new and sensational like this is anonymously slipped into the article. Once we have reliable and verifiable sources at hand, the "fascist article editors" (that is - the Counter-Vandalism Unit and other Protectors of the Wikipedia) certainly have no problem with allowing it. --T-dot 09:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School

I am brand new here please tell me what I am doing wrong so that I do not make the same mistakes in the future.

This came from http://www.snitchseeker.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=22450&highlight=shiplake

Dan Radcliffe joins £16,000 a year school

Harry Potter star, Daniel Radcliffe has started as a pupil at a boarding school which is the spitting image of Hogwarts.

The 15-year-old now attends the exclusive £16,000-a-year Shiplake College, set in Oxfordshire woodland.

Shiplake is known as a school for the rich and the famous - George Harrison's son, Dhani, was a pupil.

A close friend of Daniel said: "Shiplake is certainly big on drama and theatre lessons. It is well-known for its excellence in the arts and Daniel is fitting in very well."

Source: The Sunday Mirror http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/

--Cowarth 20:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

First, put your signature at the end of the post with four tildes (~~~~) rather than the beginning of the post; it's easier to read that way. Second, I'm not certain, but I think The Sunday Mirror is a tabloid and, if so, it would not qualify as a reliable source. Third, it's best to include the source as a reference within the article itself (see the references already there to learn how to include them). Happy editing! RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

After doing some more searching, I believe that this is a false report, I am unable to find any other sources to verify this claim. --Cowarth 15:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Extras?

There is no mention of his appearance on Extras.

[edit] Equus "controversy"

Given the actors age, controversy has been stirred

I've removed the above, as I've seen no evidence of any "controversy" or of Radcliffe's age being an issue (he will be almost 18 when the play opens, and a 17 year old young man appearing nude on the London stage is hardly the sort of thing to raise eyebrows these days). The role has obviously generated a lot of media interest, but no real negative attention as far as I can tell. 217.155.20.163 12:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish

He is Jewish, see this quote:

“My mum was of Jewish blood and my dad was protestant,” [2]

Judiaism follows matrilineal descent, which means Jewish mom = Jewish kid. Also see this quote from the Wikipedia article on Judaism, under the section entitled "Who is a Jew":

"Generally, in modern secular usage, Jews include three groups: people who practice Judaism and have a Jewish ethnic background (sometimes including those who do not have strictly matrilineal descent), people without Jewish parents who have converted to Judaism; and those Jews who, while not practicing Judaism as a religion, still identify themselves as Jewish by virtue of their family's Jewish descent and their own cultural and historical identification with the Jewish people."

John Reaves 01:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

well does he practice? Does he identify as a Jew? By matrilineal descent I am Jew but no one in my family has practice since the early 1900s. It's about self-identity as well, not just ethno-religious descent.201.21.96.49 22:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

We only know about it because he said so in a TV interview and it was confirmed by his grandmother. He and his family aren't hiding it.--Runcorn 10:15, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo placement

Just wondering why a photo isn't in the infobox where it belongs... CaveatLectorTalk 21:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Per fair-use criteria, only freely licensed media may be used to identify a living, public person. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 21:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
I wonder what happened to the image that was there only last week. It appeared to be free, but it was nevertheless deleted... Mad Jack 22:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Schooling

According to the paper he has transferred from City of London school to a school that was only described as "near Fulham". Does anyone know which school it is so this info can be added to the article? Haddiscoe 01:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Daniel is not dead

Please correct the mistake on the page cause I almost faint when I read the article, since it was shocking and untrue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.8.80.242 (talk) 19:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

You need to clear your cache - in Firefox this is Ctrl R F5, in Internet Explorer Ctrl F5 I think, - that vandalism was removed about 5 1/2 hours ago and lasted 12 minutes. RHB Talk - Edits 19:55, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Semi protection

I dont know u guys but i`m gonna protect this page, it`s like the 3th time today that I see reverting cuz of people very "happy" about his naked pics, and one with his theoretical death. Even when I agree with the pics stuff, I`ve prefer to discuss that on mugglenet or myspace rather than here ;)--ometzit<col> 01:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No you won't, you're not an administrator. Plus, the vandalism doesn't warrant semi-protection. John Reaves (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Like full protection, it is usually not a preemptive measure. However, Jimbo Wales has suggested semi-protection may be used in cases of "...minor [biographies] of slightly well known but controversial individuals..." which are not widely watchlisted, if they are "...subject to POV pushing, trolling, [or] vandalism." In such cases, semi-protection "...would at least eliminate the drive-by nonsense that we see so often This is a minor importance biography. Also it never say that non-admin can use the semi protection policy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alextrevelian 006 (talkcontribs) 01:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
It's on my watchlist, I'll keep reverting vandalism. Regardless, you have to an admin to protect a page–but you can go ahead and try if you want. John Reaves (talk) 06:54, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popist Potter?

Is Dan descended from the well-known historical engish underground catholic (recusant) family of the Radcliffes? 82.131.210.162 10:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proof of my innocence...

On reverting an edit by a user with no account name, I was asked to prove myself after saying that Dan had signed up to star in the last two Harry Potter movies by User:RadioKirk. I am a trainee actor myself, and a honest Wikipedian, who spends a lot of time reverting stupid and unnecessary abuse, so I do know things like this you know...

Before I prove myself, there are two reasons why I would not lie on Wikipedia on this subject;

  • I am an honest person, and spend much of my time reverting abuse on the website, so I wouldn't mess others about...
  • I am an actor myself (albeit in training), and I know lots about Daniel Radcliffe, seen as he is one of those professionals who inspire me (I contributed lots of my extensive acting knowledge to the acting page.)

These are proof of my comment;

Enjoy reading... Lradrama 20:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I did not accuse you of any dishonesty, so please don't take it that way; indeed, I quoted wikipedia policy in asking you for a reliable source. Attribution is the cornerstone of any encyclopedia and, sorry, but saying you're an actor and you know Radcliffe is original research, which also is against policy.
Of the three sources you've cited above, one does not note its source while a second uses an author without explaining who he is or where he got his information. The other, from Sun Herald, notes the source as the Associated Press and passes verifiability standards. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 21:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, alright, at least we've made each other clear on our views, and I now understand your intentions. Thankyou for replying. Lradrama 21:19, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Dan2.jpg

Even if it turns out this image is legit—and, I have some doubts—I'd like to see some discussion before its potential return to the article. Certainly, Wikipedia is not censored, but this policy primarily refers to articles in which there's a reasonable expectation that an image represents its subject, such as an image or diagram on vagina or penis. This particular image here suggests unnecessary exposition and, I believe, would unnecessarily (and this is key) shock younger Potter fans. Comments, please. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 21:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I think this may be the case of "the picture sums up the situation perfectly". A young actor appears naked on stage-this shocks the media blah blah blah. We have a shocking image of the actor naked on stage, so this isn't unnecessary exposition. Regarding young fans-isn't there a template that says "this article may contain images that are not suitable for younger readers" or something along those lines? If not, i'll be happy to make one. This may be a case of us to keep goimg forward and if there's a storm we deal with it then and there. Regards. Dalejenkins 22:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
One quick technical argument: it was the pre-publicity that "shocked" people, not the nudity or even the performance; once the play opened, media ran stories of the response, and it pretty much ended there. No such image existed prior to the premiere, or it would have been all over the place. This image, even if legit (and, right now, that's a big "if"), would not correctly illustrate the text, IMO. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 22:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
The image was all over the place, but just censored in most media as
A-it is against laws for newspapers etc...
B-most people don't want the standards of their webpage degraded.
Dalejenkins 22:38, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I saw no discussion of such on fan pages prior to the premiere, and I was watching for potential additions to the Wiki article... RadioKirk (u|t|c) 22:40, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

url for image in question (website of West End production): http://www.equustheplay.com/pr/index.php Daniloc 09:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry if I may have been ambiguous in my last comment, but I would have thought looking up the url I listed would confirm that only the tastefully cropped images or the ones with jeans are legit (not the fake photoshop image) 24.81.197.236 15:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Daniloc, that precise image is not on that page. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 16:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Again, sorry if I've been ambiguous. My original intention was to say that only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Equus_col4_hires.jpg is on the url I provided. (I came upon this discussion with that legitimate image in place, so I presumed incorrectly you were looking for a url for that one.) I agree that Dan2.jpg is not on that url, and is not legit. That's why I reverted when Dalejenkins put up Dan2.jpg. I believe RadioKirk and I are in violent agreement. Daniloc 17:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Daniloc, for the clarification. In a few minutes, I will be presenting undeniable proof that this image is a fake. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:31, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

As promised, incontrovertible proof that the image is faked, and this overlay proving it's the identical image and not a different pose.RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Or you could have just asked his mohel... Daniloc 18:28, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, you lost me... RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Look up 'mohel' (in Wikipedia, perhaps ;). Those of us who have seen the West End production can attest to the mohel's visit, and why Dan2.jpg was obviously a fake. Daniloc 18:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, I would not have accepted that as absolute proof. As I like to joke, I'm not Jewish, but my doctor apparently was... ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
A further note: I try to do these things by the book so I'm not abusing my administrator's privileges; a recognized theatre reviewer noting in print "the mohel's visit", as you put it, would be acceptable proof, but (and, with every respect) a Wiki editor saying he's seen the production is original research. To deny and delete an image requires that I offer up the incontrovertible, and that meant a direct comparison of the images. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Must apologise for my sense of humour. Not entirely unproductive an exchange, though - between my "mohel's visit" and your "original research", we've done the cause of obfuscation proud. (I grant that not a small percentage of the audience at the Gielgud Theatre is probably there for original research on... nice weather we're having, yes?) Daniloc 17:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Hehe no need for apologies; my sense of humor is a bit dry for some. The funny part is, I know how Mel Brooks pronounces mohel (basically, moil), but I'd never gotten 'round to looking up the spelling—initially, I thought you'd misspelled "model", leading me to ask myself, "how am I supposed to find the model used to fake the image among tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of similar images on the Internet?" ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Roles under main photo

If two roles were to be noted, I would argue for Harry Potter and Alan Strang (Equus), instead of Potter and a role as a young child in David Copperfield. Daniloc 07:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Potter and Equus probably are his two most significant roles, but DC is a close third. He's the one on theDVD cover (not the adult DC), and each actor has one epsiode, so it's not as if he's only playing the younger version in flashback scenes or something. Amo 12:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Irish Descent


I've reverted a change which removed Daniel Radcliffe from the category '...of Irish Descent...'. The editor who made the change may well have his/her reason, but I'd like to hear it. It's in the article that Radcliffe's father is from Northern Ireland. Admittedly that doesn't make him Irish, but Radcliffe has referred to himself in an interview as being half-Irish. Daniloc 22:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I suppose that if we're being hyper-fussy, it can be argued that growing up in Northern Ireland doesn't necessarily mean that you're of Irish descent. Is there a verifiable reference for the interview?--Runcorn 23:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I acknowledge above that 'Admittedly that doesn't (necessarily) make him Irish'. My memory is good... but I am also lazy. I remember his comment that he's half-Irish and the context in which he made it: I believe he was saying he's good at telling stories... after all, he's half-Irish. However, I know I'm never going to search through the many video clips available online to find the one where he says this. Sorry. 63.76.82.66 22:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] his band.

i've heard that he has a rock band of his own. If this is true, can someone post infomation about it in the article? dposse 22:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

An answer would be nice. dposse 17:13, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
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