Talk:Deliriant

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[edit] "True" hallucinogens

Rawr, I /hate/ this common misconception! While deleriants are true hallucinogens, so are conventional hallucinogens. A hallucinogen is something that causes hallucinations, and hallucinations are perception in the absence of external stimuli (Note that there is nothing in that definition about whether these hallucinations are considered real by the person).

The only difference between deleriant-induced hallucinations and those caused by conventional hallucinogens is that they appear real; in other words, they are accompanied by delusions that they are real. There is nothing "true" about deleriant-induced hallucinations that there isn't about those caused by, say, LSD.

--140.159.2.32 04:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Just had to add that some hallucinations from deliriants are obviously not there. Such as when I was on diphenhydramine and saw what looked like a shadow (a darker portion than what was surrounding it) on the wooden-styled wall forming into shapes and people, and dancing and such. I knew I was just seeing things. Other examples have been reported. But obviously, yes, most of the time the user cannot tell the difference between hallucinations and reality. I've read in some places that the actual definition of a hallucination means that classic hallucinogens don't create what are considered "true" hallucinations. Maybe that's where this came from? 4.234.51.173 07:17, 24 January 2007 (UTC)