Talk:Dimitris Mitropoulos

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There is already a page at Dmitri Mitropoulos that is more detailed. If it should be spelled differently in your opinion there is the option (possibly only available to admins?) to use the move feature. Please consider, as this does not work. Thanks. Schissel‐bowl listen 22:48, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)

Correction: There was, I see. It now _was_, and has been replaced with a redirect, but its material was not also moved here. Still not good. Schissel‐bowl listen 22:50, Dec 26, 2004 (UTC)

The "move" option is available to everyone, not just admins, and that was what I did in order to change his name to a more appropriate transliteration from Greek: I moved Dmitri Mitropoulos to Dimitris Mitropoulos. I didn't find a more complete version of the article in the page history. Perhaps I've failed to understand what seems to be the problem. Can you be more specific? Etz Haim 23:43, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ah — I see that Alan Pettersson which was similarly moved to Allan Pettersson was replaced with a redirect #REDIRECT [[Allan Pettersson]]. However, the latter move moved an article with information and improper spelling to an article which didn't exist but proper spelling. Moving [[Dimitri Mitropoulos]] replaced an existing page, with (six? more, I think) paragraphs of information (hopefully in the edit history somewhere. I expect so, it's how Wikipedia tends to work.) with a redirect to a new page, with more accurate orthography, but less information. Merging would have been better, as information in the old page would not have been lost. Thank you. Schissel‐bowl listen 02:52, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

Correction; I can see the old version in this link. There are only four paragiraffes. But they are fuller ones and I hope you will now see some of my point. Schissel‐bowl listen 02:55, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

My tone's been rather rotten, though... agh. Will try to moderate that. Best. Schissel - bowl listen 03:01, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

Now I see: Nothing has been replaced or removed, there are duplicate articles under Dimitri Mitropoulos and Dimitris Mitropoulos. The 'move' option has safety to prevent overwriting existing pages. The two articles should be merged together. Etz Haim 10:01, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And I apologize — I should have just asked (such a large change after all, and the page most recent changer available to ask) that I could have just done the page merge, not complain gripe murmur gripe *vbg* as I did! Schissel - bowl listen 14:28, Dec 27, 2004 (UTC)

I moved this from Talk:Dimitri Mitropoulos, since no one would see it there, and I just happened to see it posted when I was RC patrolling:

Je lis l'article consacré à Mitropoulos. Il omet de dire que c'est grâce à mon grand-père Armand Marsick que Mitropoulos a fait sa carrière. C'est Armand Marsick qui le forme à Atgènes, l'emmène en voyage à travers l'Europe... Il devait tout à Armand Marsick. Mais il s'est montré particulièrement ingrat! Mon grand-père était très amer... Armand Marsick a dominé le conservatoire d'Athènes de 1908 à 1922: c'est lui qui le réforme entièrement et en fait un conservatoire organisé sur le modèle du Conservatoire de Paris, avant d'en devenir le directeur. Pendant toute cette période, c'est lui qui organise et dirige l'orchestre symphonique d'Athènes. Et donc, Mitropoulos a pu entendre non seulement un large répertoire mais aussi tous les grands artistes de l'époque qui ont fait le voyage d'Athènes. Mais, curieusement, on ne cite presque jamais le rôle essentiel joué par Armand Marsick dans l'éducation musicale de Mitropoulos. J'espère que vous pourrez rectifier cette biographie et rendre à mon grand-père l'honneur qu'il mérite.

Jacques Marsick France —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.196.148.87 (talk • contribs) .

According to Grove, Mitropoulos was discovered by Armand Marsick at the age of ten; Jacques, Armand's grandson, has a point. I'm not sure just how much influence Armand may have had in his education, but if he was director of the academy in Athens, he was probably influential indeed. Antandrus (talk) 05:45, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Clarifications?

Two things here don't quite make sense: the article says DM introduced many works by Mahler...I assume this means he introduced them in the US? Also, did he die in the middle of an actual rehearsal of Mahler 3 in Milan, or is it just that he was in Milan preparing the performances and died before the performances took place? I can't fix these because I don't know the answers but I'm hoping someone could just check and clarify those points. Thanks in advance! --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 15:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)