Talk:Dutch declension
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[edit] Dutch declensions???
I'm a native speaker of Dutch. The declensions proposed here are archaic or even wrong nowadays! Normally we do NOT use cases (except for certain pronouns, like English), although in certain expressions (idiomatic expressions) part of the old case system is retained, - e.g. 's morgens (in the morning) (des morgens sounds incredibly archaic) - or as style - e.g. ten tonele verschijnen (≡ op het toneel verschijnen) (appear on stage). There is no nominative-accusative opposition at all.
Furthermore, I found a locative case for pronouns. I wouldn't even (like everyone) be able to UNDERSTAND the forms suggested here.
This article needs extensive cleanup, as to let it reflect the Dutch used in 2006.
--JorisvS 16:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE, SCAVANGER, BUT IT IS RUDE JUST DELETING MY COMMENT! I suggest that you learn Dutch first.
[edit] REWRITE
This page is a laugh and a shame. Is this supposed to be Dutch declension? This page is simply an examply how Dutch would look like with a declension system (as in a modern one) I will rewrite this article completely in a couple of days. I'm afraid only bits of this page will be saved as examples of complex or poetic use of the Dutch language. To whoever wrote this, I hope you're not Dutch. Rex 16:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- Finally! I wish I knew more Dutch to contribute. It's good to see it's going to be rewritten and will not mislead anyone in future. matt-(my page-leave me a message) 17:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The reverts to misleading information
What's with the reverts to the page? The page written by Rex Germanus is factually correct. Now it's not about Dutch we're speaking today anymore. matt-(my page-leave me a message) 15:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- Really matt I wish I knew, some anynymous IP keeps reverting this page to archaic and incorrect grammar. This IP never responds to edit summaries ... its just very weird.Rex 15:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Seems to me that this page isn't so factual correct at all. Added the sign that this page is lacking (a lot of) references. I think we best translate the pages on http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Grammatica
134.184.49.146 17:53, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Incorporating historical information
I understand (based on comments here and at Archaic Dutch Declension and so forth) that some are trying to incorporate outdated material about the declensions, and so forth. Is it possible to make this page incorporate historical patterns like English declension? English declension seems pretty similar to Dutch in the degree of simplicity and the fact it came from a more complicated pattern. There's some difficulty, as explained at Talk:Archaic Dutch Declension, that the history of Dutch makes it hard to pinpoint clearly the declension system used at specific times. That author did provide some references for older declension patterns; Archaic Dutch Declension is not referenced and apparently erroneous (or at least misleading). Rigadoun (talk) 15:24, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
