Talk:Dylan and Cole Sprouse

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Date	Process	Result
May 24, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
June 21, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
Current Status: Good article (actors)

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[edit] PICTURE

Can we get a recent picture of Cole and Dylan??

It is now recent. Enjoy. MiniMary12 22:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Nomination

Pass. The article is plentiful in references and maintaines an overall NPOV. --71.230.73.113 01:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

You should register a user account and promote it to GA. :) Mad Jack O'Lantern 04:34, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

p.s. how caN GeT A PICTURES OF DYLAN COLE

AUTOTOAMS

[edit] Wikipedia is not a chat group

Talk pages are for discussion of the article only. Do not add irrelevant discussion to this page or it may be seen as vandalism. Mrtea (talk) 06:31, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things

I went ahead and added their role in "The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things" onto their article.--Jennie Ambrose 10:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Headline text

"On Disney Channel's 2005 New Year's Eve Marathon one of the twins admitted to having a crush on "Brenda Song" " - Should this REALLY be on the page? I was going to take it off, but I want a second opinion. I doesn't really fit into the article. --Jennie Ambrose 21:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like info for gossip magazines; I support removal. HollyAm 22:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Not really verifiable either. Should be removed. Mrtea (talk) 23:09, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

It's been deleted. Thanks for the reassurance. --Jennie Ambrose 02:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Just curious. Which twin? Mooski Magnus 01:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Detail

You really need alot more detail of Dylan and Cole sprouse, and of course alot less facts about editing. Sincerly, Taylor Coleman —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.102.96.211 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 2 January 2006.

I think it's un-useful and could be considered as gossip. It would also help if you knew which one of the twins (Dylan) confessed that.--Jennie Ambrose 19:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where did the image go?

Is it something wrong with my computer where the image isn't showing up, or is the image gone? --Jennie Ambrose 05:48, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

The image was removed by an automated bot because it had no copyright information. Copyrighted images can't be used on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Image use policy. By the way, you can view all edits made to a page by clicking the history tab up top. Mrtea (talk) 21:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Ok. It makes sense now. Thanks. --Jennie Ambrose 05:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Friends

Cody (whichever one he is) plays Ben, Ross Geller's son, in Friends. That surely must be notable. H ig hway ^{Rainbow Sneakers} 22:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

It's in the article..... check under "Career" Mad Jack O'Lantern 22:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speaking Italian

I don't think they speak italian but that's just what I heard. Dont rely on that.

They said in a cited interview that they don't speak Italian. Hope that clears it up (it's mention under Personal Life here) Mad Jack 05:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

We used to have a copy of the IMDB info that they speak Italian (which I didn't think was true, because it's not their parents' native language). Well, in MadMagazineKids (May 2006), they are asked about it and they say that they don't speak Italian, aside from "Pasta", "Spaghetti", etc. Just clearing it up. Mad Jack O'Lantern 22:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I discussed it with User:MKaiserman and thought was right to keep that info on the page. First IMDB is a common and correct source for cinema actors (it's used widely in other pages, I dunno why you think would not be correct). Second if u got they're not able to speak Italian just put a REAL link in the page so the users could check it.

A note: Sprouse's parents were English teacher in an Italian school. Obviously they KNOW Italian to be able to teach there and they probably teach Italian to their kids.

Anyway, no problem put the link to the article magazine and we'll check your sentence.--Doctor01 10:21, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Just another note, IMDb has plenty of false information. Users can submit entries to the trivia and quotes sections, and they only need to be verified by an admin before they go live. I don't know how much research they do to verify the facts. See also Imdb#Criticisms. Mrtea (talk) 12:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

No, IMDB is not reliable and no one considers it so. It's not linked to as a source in any page when it comes to actual information about the person (although for film credits, maybe) and should not be - remove any such link if you see it. A magazine article which interviews the Sprouses first-hand is reliable. There's no real comparison between the two. Mad Jack O'Lantern 18:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, as you can see on the top of the paragraph is reported that source to the criticisms are missing. IMDB has editorial control by admins, so I think is more probable it contains true infos than false ones. Anyway, humans can be wrong. And that's the same here in Wikipedia. If Mad Jack O'Lantern put a real link, no problem but until then I think IMDB is the right source. --Doctor01 18:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There's no think about it. IMDB is not a reliable source. Please stop linking to it. An interview involvin the subject of an article is immediately a more accurate source than anything else. It's a first-hand source. As you can see, the rest of the article also uses the same kind of first-hand sources - New York Times, etc. IMDB is fan-submitted trivia. Mad Jack O'Lantern 18:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm stil waiting for the REAL source you put on the page, I'd like to verify it by myself (the links in Wikipedia are almost real, they link to web pages), if you don't mind. And please stop writing the twins are not Italian, no-one said that before. They are legally Italian American, I mean, according to Law. It's still reported they are American and sons of American people. Your sentence is unnecessary and redundant. IMDB is full of right infos. I just want to see your source and your sentence'll be on the page without any problem. Just to be correct.--Doctor01 11:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about? What real source? Magazine sources are perfectly acceptable. It doesn't matter if they sell those magazines where you live. Don't remove a whole chunk of well sourced information just because it isn't sourced to an online source. For goodness sake. And please don't refer to the IMDB as reliable. I also have not seen anything reliable that says they are Italian citizens. I thought it might be true so I didn't remove it. But I have not confirmed it. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable Sources. Mad Jack O'Lantern 13:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I frequent the IMDb, still do, and belive me, there is always info that is wrong/cannot be verified. Magazines/books should always be cited, as opposed to an IMDb trivia entry - as the trivia entrys are just submitted by fans and thus may not be 100% reliable. Also - considering this article is a GA nominee - it will not pass if there are references to the IMDb trivia. Best not to reference such sources. Cheers. Cvene64 14:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citizenship

This discussion has led me to notice something. The Italian nationality law article says "For Italian-born of foreign parents, the applicant must have resided in Italy continuously from birth to adulthood." Since this isn't the case with the Sprouses, I have a feeling that the whole "dual citizenship" thing is also an IMDB rumor. I'll remove it pending a good source (none of the magazine articles I used mention it, neither does the New York Times or other articles)

"They have Italian citizenship because of their birth, although they are not of Italian descent."

Mad Jack O'Lantern 16:13, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GAnom Image:The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things film.jpg

I came to look at this article while reviewing GA articles. The use of this poster images though they are listed on the poster it out of step with the rest of the article. If they had the title role on the poster, or they were on it then it would be appropriate. Suggest it gets removed. As the last thing that is seen when reading the article it dominates way to much, especially as the movie only played in 3 cinemas in the US. Gnangarra 12:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

They are on the poster.... The "little girl" that Asia Argento is holding is one of the Sprouse twins... In fact, the poster is perhaps useful in showing "a different side" of the Sprouse twins, so to speak. Mad Jack O'Lantern 18:37, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I dont think the poster contributes to the article its only uselful if the message is delivered, personally I would fail for this poster image but I'll leave this nomination standing for another person to review. Gnangarra 13:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I like the picture. It shows what versatile actors they are. TripleH1976 20:34 p.m., 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I think with the screen as opposed to the poster, it has a notable contribution. Can be a GA now imo. Cvene64 05:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

On the picture it says, "Dylan OR Cole Sprouse", it's definately Dylan. It's very easy to tell when your watching the movie in that scene. --Jennie Ambrose 11:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll correct it. Mad Jack O'Lantern 20:47, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for Dylan and Cole Sprouse has failed, for the following reason:

Information like The twins have a dog named Bubba,[3] and their favorite actor and co-star is Adam Sandler.[2] is overly trivial, and makes the article read like a fan piece. Most of it is good but this lets it down. Worldtraveller 12:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

So what specifically would you do delete? I'm not too attached to any of it, so if deletion is all that's necessary to get the GA, then delete at your leisure. Mad Jack O'Lantern 21:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Can this decision be appealed? Did “Worldtraveller” alone arrive at this decision? I think the article is very well written, very informative and should be resubmitted. (Aperiodic 04:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC))

It was just worldtraveller. The GA system allows for anyone to either accept, reject an article into a GA, or re-insert it as a GA nomination (as long as that anyone hasn't worked on the page themselves). Therefore you can basically promote this article to a GA yourself, since it doesn't look like you've worked on it at all. 69.19.14.20 14:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia Section

Alot of the stuff in the "personal life" section, seems more like trivia. does anyone think that we should just turn it into a Trivia section instead?

Trivia sections are un-encyclopedic... we shouldn't have them at all... So it should definitely stay in sentence format Mad Jack 21:03, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Also i think this should be put in the trivia section:Dylan was rumored to have viciously attacked Cole and knocked him unconscious for several minutes. Cole came to, and was reported saying "I'm never making another episode (of Suite Life) again!"

[edit] The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things...

Do the boys play girls in this film? Can someone fill me in here? Mrtea (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

They play a (one) boy whose mother likes to dress up as girls... Mad Jack 05:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA

As there was no reponse to my query above, I've re-nominated it for GA and hopefully someone can fill me in on what needs to be cut. Mad Jack 05:30, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Since it doesn't appear that the article has changed substantially since it last failed GA, I assume you are relisting because you either disagree or didn't understand the reason for failure. Anyway, it seems good to me. It is well-written, I didn't notice any blatant typos, it follows WP:STYLE, has photos, etc. The tag on the first image is goofy, and there is no fair use rationale, but as far as I can tell that is not an inhibiting factor for GA status. I am promoting. Aguerriero (talk) 21:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I queried World Traveller what he thought needed to be deleted from the personal life section, but he didn't respond so I re-nominated. Mad Jack 21:54, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and some vandal messed up the info on the first picture - I reverted. Mad Jack 21:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Does anyone want to find a newer picture of Dylan and Cole? They are more tan and have longer hair now. loulou 02:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

yeah, but there new look is pretty hideous. Who ever told them long hair looks good? Maybe in 1985, but certainly not 2006. TripleH1976 Thur, 08:41 p.m., 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, marketing-wise, I think the long hair is part of their appeal on the television series. Mad Jack 04:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

That is correct and long hair is once again back in style with tween boys in the US. (Aperiodic 19:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC))

It doesn't matter if you like their look or not. It's better for people to know what they look like now. loulou 21:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

are u kidding they are so much hotter now

[edit] The picture from the Heart is deceitful above all things

Is the picture from that movie really necessary. What does it have to do with the article? I think it should be gotten rid of. It's out-of-place. - Rosepuff12 21:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Because we

only have one picture in the article otherwise
this picture shows a different side of the Sprouses then the other picture, which means it's useful encyclopedically
Is there any good reason for removing it? Mad Jack 21:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it's creepy and weird-looking. What is she doing in the picture? -Rosepuff12 02:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, the film it comes from is creepy, so.... She's stroking his hair Mad Jack 04:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah ok but still it's just weird. Should it still be there? -Rosepuff12 15:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see why not. We need more than one picture in an article this size. If the Sprouses chose to appear in a weird movie, why not represent that? By the way, why did you delink Asia Argento's name? Mad Jack 15:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I guess so. it should stay there then. -Rosepuff12 01:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk about Dylan and Cole Sprouse

Dylan and Cole Sprouse have just turned fourteen on August 4, and they are in the ninth grade from 2006-2007. Paulbob 20:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[1] for info and fan site of DC Srouse. Born in Arezzo, Italy. --Paulbob

Well, I go to their school and their nerdy weirdos. 12.73.121.116 21:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I bet ur very jealous to talk like this!

Last time i checked they had a private tutor and didnt goto an actual school Malevious 15:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Do we really need two? And, they should be at the top of the article, not spread throughout Mad Jack 19:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why don't they get their own pages?

Just because they are twins doesn't mean they should be one articleTrevorLSciAct 04:10, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Mary-Kate and Ashley are really famous, do they get their own article, no. Until Dylan and Cole do seperate projects, there article will reamain one.--andrewI20^Talk 06:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

209.7.99.38 this user should be blocked for vandalising the article.

I think this page must be protected or semi-protected to prevent further vandalism, since many people are modifying/vandalising it without adding sources and by destroying the article.

Who agrees?

I do. I just deleted an unnessacry comment in the main article. The comment read that they were total hotties and the user who posted said hi to a girl named Elisia. ShadowWriter 23:16, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Saying "Hi" to a friend is not that big of a deal but whoever wrote that, go to a forum please.

xplosneer does. IP adress 71.115.209.229 posted "They are so friggen host OMG!!" so please semi protect this article!Xplosneer 02:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

One of moderators must protect it then, unless someone has another opinion on how to prevent vandalism!

THIS ARTICLE IS SUBJECT OF SERIOUS VANDALISM! please any of the moderators, protect the page.

Please remember to sign your posts on the talk page, otherwise they may not be taken seriously.Locriani 04:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be proteted too, i reverted a few things of vandalism yesterday Malevious 00:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, please protect this page! It is probably very hard to have to constantly revert back to previous versions of the article. There is a lot of vandalism. (oops sorry didn't log in... re-signing) MiniMary12 20:12, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What about listing them in the Native of Tuscany list?

Arezzo is in Tuscany...

If there is such a list, they can certainly go on it... Mad Jack 06:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

there is...

[edit] New Picture

I have a picture from Thats So Suite Life of Hannah Montana, of the twins, Image:Sprouse Bros.png should we use this since it is a new picture of them? --Malevious 17:34, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

That one's OK, execpt its not high quality like the other one that is there now. -- Switchfo0t813

[edit] Picture (again)

We need a HIGH QUALITY RECENT PICTURE of Dylan and Cole. Switchfo0t813 22:14, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] High School Musical

They both were ball boys in High School Musical. I have added this to the Selected filmography section Man man man 16:36, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a source for this info? Mad Jack 19:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

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