Talk:Episcopal
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[edit] WikiProject Anglicanism
A new WikiProject focussing on Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion has just been initiated: WikiProject Anglicanism. Our goal is to improve and expand Anglican-reltaed articles. If anyone (Anglican or non-Anglican) is interested, read over the project page and consider signing up. Cheers! Fishhead64 06:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge with Episcopal polity (as discussed at Talk:Episcopal polity#Merger discussion}
This article is a bit of a mess - it seems to focus almost exclusively on episcopality in the Anglican Communion, with a rather odd and lengthy apologia for Methodist episcopacy as apostolic (which, according to the definition of apostolic succession, it is not). Ultimately, is there any reason why this article should not be merged with episcopalian church governance? Fishhead64 21:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Merge in progress. I looked at the 'What links here' report and concluded that the page Episcopal should go to a disambiguation page. A large fraction of the links were intended to go to Episcopal Church in the United States of America not to Episcopal at all. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 05:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
MERGE COMPLETE - that is the end of what I can do today. Apart from simply cutting and pasting the material, the biggest change to Episcopal polity article is probably the increased emphasis on the historic episcopate, partly as a result of some additional editing and writing I did to smooth the merge. I hope I struck a reasonable balance. Use this diff to see all the changes. There may be more tidying to do, and the article certainly needs more clear, authoritative contributions, to improve the flow and coverage, so please Be Bold. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 07:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Incoming links
[edit] thread copied from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anglicanism
It seems your page count may be increasing, which is good... If you look at Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links you'll see that Episcopal Church (462 links) (+352 in the last month or so!) is a fairly hefty (and rapidly-expanding) repeat offender in the Disambiguation link repair queue. Recently there has been talk of Wikipedia:Adopting disambiguation pages.
There are many possible options for linking to "Episcopal Church," and a non-Anglican (such as myself) might be a little lost. This sort of topic really requires people with specific knowledge of the content's domain... It would probably only take a few vigilant editors to keep this particular aspect of Wikipedia neat & tidy, if you think it's a good idea... Thanks for your time --Ling.Nut 19:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- We don't have lots of new Anglicanism articles, but we do have several hundred new incoming links. These appeared because Episcopal now redirects to Episcopal Church. (My doing, I'm afraid.)
- 80% of the articles are bios linking to Episcopal to try to identify the denomination of the subject. Only someone with detailed knowledge of the bio would know for sure, but it would be reasonable to guess that a U.S. person should be Episcopal Church in the United States of America, and a Scottish person would be Scottish Episcopal Church.
- The rest of the Episcopal links should probably be changed to Bishop, and very rarely to Episcopal polity or Anglicanism
- Episcopal Church should always go to the nationality of the article in question. If there is a very rare link like Reformed [[Episcopal Church]] then it will go to the wrong place, but that is tough luck.
- Are there any tools that Wikignomes use to make this work faster?
- --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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- These problems built up over several years, because, quite understandably, many Wikipedia editors think that there is a denomination called Episcopal. Episcopal Church is intended to explain that there isn't. (So was the old article at Episcopal.)
- So, read Episcopal Church carefully and then bypass the disambiguation if you can.
- Try to clean up Episcopal Church. Ideally it should be understood instantly by someone that knows the subject of their own article, but knows nothing about Christianity.
- I will paste this piece into Talk:Episcopal and Talk:Episcopal Church
- --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:20, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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- For a semi-automated tool you can download, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation/fixer
- If you want to talk about this further, please add Talk:Episcopal Church to your watchlist.
- --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 08:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Why Episcopal needs disambiguation
When an editor links to Episcopal, it is almost certainly an error, as the word Episcopal is ambiguous. If an editor accidentally creates this link, a reader should not be redirected directly to Bishop, Anglicanism or The Episcopal Church. Instead they should be taken to the disambiguation page at Episcopal Church, to find the article they wanted (and hopefully fix the link.) --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 13:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
