User talk:Esoltas/WikiProject Shipwrecks
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[edit] Infoboxes
Whilst I have done some bits here and there on Wikipedia I am a relative duffer at the actual coding stuff. I noticed from the grading scale that infoboxes are helpful things - is there a standard shipwreck infobox? I have no idea how to make one, but (to my mind) things such as a picture (either wrecked or afloat), date of wreck, location of wreck, country of registration would suffice for a casual looker. As an aside - a good idea for a project, whoever thought it up. I can add little to important wrecks, but am working on adding artciles on the many around Bermuda. LeeG 01:19, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hello
Ignorant as I can be, what I did was never surpassed. I hope. I forgot to leave any sort of "Hello!" message here for the group. I founded this WikiProject. I just finished making categories, and nearly done assessing articles. Real credit for assessing 80% of the articles goes singularly to Blood red sandman. --Evan(Salad dressing is the milk of the infidel!) 20:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
The acknowledgement is apreciated - Blood red sandman 21:41, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Userbox template
Hi all, I been playing and created a {{User WPShipwrecks}} for User pages of project members, the links are red until the project moves from these user pages. Gnangarra 12:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- We already have one. See {{User WikiProject Shipwrecks}} or {{User WikiProject Shipwrecks2}}. I left this message on your talk page too. Evan(Salad dressing is the milk of the infidel!) 18:25, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Criteria for classification
Can anybody tell me whether the criteria for classification in Low---Top importance are really useaable for shipwrecks; as this is not clear. Leafing through the list it seems to me that Modern and US ship wrecks rank consitently higher then other wrecks which (of course) should not play a role. (e.g \. Commerce (ship) is ranked mid where Batavia (ship) is ranked low). In my opinion the problem is that no individual shipwreck is essential to understand the phenomenon (so no ship lists as top), and only shipwreck that are that obscure that they are just not listed would rank as low importance. Arnoutf 18:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Valencia?
Has any work been done on an article about the Roman shipwreck to be found off the coast of Valencia? See [1]. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 17:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] M/S Herald of Free Enterprise
Hi, not very important, just a quick heads up to let you know that a major restructuring is intended for the M/S Herald of Free Enterprise article by WelshMatt, and that should bring the article up significantly in quality. If you have anything in particular you want to see done, propose it on the talk page for the article! Blood red sandman 18:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Intersting Wreck - Looking fowards to the rebuild. Markco1 20:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I've had a go at improving it. This is my first attempt at copyediting so any advice is welcome. I've attempted to rationalise some duplicated information and generally tidy up, spell check, and reword in a more encyclopedic style. WelshMatt 14:01, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't look at it before improvement, but it seems well structured now - however it could still do with better referencing in accordance with WP:V. Viv Hamilton 18:13, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree - I'll dig up some references for the ship shortly. One of the books I have covers the sinking pretty well alongside a general history of the Spirit class. A brief web trawl should turn up original news reports. WelshMatt 18:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
I've now had a go at adding references, but I didn't get very far. Basically I've added placemarks where I feel references are needed in the hope that others will be able to fill in the gaps in the sources I have. If anyone can help here then please do so. WelshMatt 13:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I will see if I can find any more references. Looks like a lot need to be dug up - BTW looks like you did a great job!! Markco1 14:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Following some handy advice on the Talk page for the article I've changed my ghastly mess of numbers in brackets to the "Citation needed" flags - I've also managed to get the two sources I have to work as proper Wikipedia footnotes (eg with the number in brackets working as a link to the relevant footnote). Thanks for the kind words! WelshMatt 17:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian maritime history
As a matter of courtesy, I should let you know that this new project has started - with a strong western australian contingent (probably because of our long coastline with a large number of shipwrecks amongst other things ! ) - and in the process of searching through wikipedia - I am not impressed by the status or general situations of maritime history (like no-one in the states has even ventured to start a usa article? it seems really odd) so- maybe one day a west australian will have to start the usa maritime history article ?! Anyways keep up the good work!!! SatuSuro 23:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ISSN question
Please see the note I posted at Talk:Salcombe_Cannon_Wreck#Correct_ISSN_for_References. I'm trying to clean up ISSNs tagged as being incorrect, and though you may be able to help. Keesiewonder 23:06, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] “Shipwreck”
Not all of the maritime incidents described in this project are “shipwrecks”. For a maritime accident to be a shipwreck, the boat has to sink. Wouldn't it be more appropriate to rename some lists and categories as “maritime incidents” rather than “shipwrecks”? – Zntrip 03:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- The way I'm looking at it - others in the project may disagree with me - if a vessel came substantially close to becoming a shipwreck, then it is covered by the project. I don't know about anyone else's views, though. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 07:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't have to sink to be a wreck, it could for example be stranded or beached, or still floating but in a dangerous condition. A wreck is a vessel rendered incapable of restoration to navigation, irrespectrive of what subsequently happens to it. The remains of wrecks can be salvaged afterwards. This doesn't mean that it wasn't a wreck. So not all shipwrecks leave remains that you can dive. Viv Hamilton 08:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Carissa
Hi, just wanted to point out, the New Carissa featured article will be on the main Wikipedia page on 3/31. Might be good to give it an "importance" rating - I don't know much about shipwrecks, so I can't really do it! Anyway, just thought you'd like to know. -Pete 05:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, I will get it done!
[edit] Attack on Pearl Harbor FAR
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