Talk:Battle of Lepanto order of battle
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Just on the translations of the names, would it be better to put the original name first, then perhaps a translation in brackets, in case someone else comes along and says "hey that name's wrong"? This way they'd know, "oh, it's the same name, just a different language". SpookyMulder 13:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- The names were wrong and that is all. I saw even the galley "Leone" of "Capodistria" commanded by "Domenico dal Tago", translated in modern Croatian: "Lav" of "Kopar" commanded by "Domink dal Tako". That is very funny: this city was always italian, in 1945 has became Slovenian, but for sure it was never Croatian. That should be the "original" names"! Coastal Dalmatia was populated by a mix of people, italian and slavic. It's not possible to speak about "nationalities", it was a mix! But for sure, slavic wes NEVER an official languange before XIX century, so it is NOT possible for those ships to have slavic names!!!! Those name are only a recent translation of the original names. And this is TIPICAL of Croat nationalism! If somebedy can demonstrate that those ships had slavic name in XVI century, is welcomed. But on the contrary, let's keep the REAL names!!!!! And I mean,to demonstrate with document of the time, and NOT with pseudo-historic books of XIX and XX centuries, maybe printed in Croatia. --Giovanni Giove 15:21, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Complete list of the names
I saw that a complete list of the names is present in the Italian article. Better than the present English version. If somepody wnat to compite the work, he can have a look there (no problem for language: it is easy! --Giovanni Giove 15:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well, recently, there was a sign erected in Nafpaktos, commemorating Croatians who were killed in battle. For that to be possible, Greek authorities insisted on some independent historical proof that Croats were fighting among christian soldiers. Venetians never listed nationalities of people in their army (Spain did!), and it's unfair, because, at least 3000 Croats died, and some ships in Venetian fleet were from Dalmatian coastal cities. Even if Croatian wasn't official in Dalmatia then, crews spoke Croatian, and mass on those ships was held on Croatian language. I think Croatian names of those ships could be at least in brackets.
- Post documents or let it be. If you claim that the mass in the ship spoke Croatian (that would be surprising), post documents. The fact that some Slavic Dalmatian were in Venitian ships (it is possible), is meaningless. Dalamatian cities did not belonged to a Croatian state in that time. I've reveted all your edits, they have no historical relevance at all.--Giovanni Giove 17:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
