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Giraffe was a good article candidate, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. Once the objections listed below are addressed, the article can be renominated. You may also seek a review of the decision if you feel there was a mistake.
Date of review: 16 August 2006 |
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[edit] Good article nomination
This article is very well written. It touches on many fascinating topics, and is obviously NPOV. The images are well used, and add to the article as nicely as the text. I've place this nomination on hold, however, because of concerns over references, and suggestions that may warrant additions. Many statements are made in the article that really need very thorough referencing. For example, "Giraffes are thought to be mute. However, recent research has shown evidence that the animal communicates at an infrasound level." Thought by whom? Who did this research? The inline citations are sporadic and, in certain sections, missing entirely. The presence of "citation needed" templates in the text makes this unsuitable for good article status presently, but since these changes are ones that could be made easily within a week, I decided to place the nomination on hold. Furthermore, I two content concerns, but I think they are easily fixed in an article of this length, and hence I've waited before failing on this account. Basically, my chief concern is that the first reference cited is in the infobox and lists the giraffe as threatened. Unfortunately, this is a very loose end since there is no exploration of any sort of conservation efforts, or any mention of the actual threats facing the giraffe. I would suggest a section dealing with human/giraffe interaction, including threats, efforts made to preserve the animal, etc. I would also suggest a section in culture and literature, though this can be done bulleted, or in summary, and is also doable in seven days, even if not as thorough as it could be (this is for good article, not featured, after all!). I enjoyed this article! Good job to those who contributed! Cheers! Chuchunezumi 00:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Please note that the intention to improve this article in the suggested ways must be announced here within the next twenty-four hours in order to maintain the seven day hold; please make it clear whether these can be accomplished, and whether they are planned. I cannot fathom these changes will be able to be accomplished in any less time. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 01:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, as nobody has rushed to address these issues, and also because there still seems to be several edits still in progress raising further stability issues, I regret I have to fail this article. I encourage the editors to address these concerns and then renominate this article. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 02:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- The section Other Behavior needs revision. It is not true that a giraffe has a "specially-adapted tongue and lips that appear to be immune to the vicious thorns [of acacia trees.]" See a botany website (Wayne's Word) with pictures of the great big thorns in question. The author explains that a giraffe uses its extremely long, prehensile tongue to wrap around tender acacia leaves and pluck them. It would be most helpful to link to relevant Wayne's Word photographs (which are copyright W.P. Armstrong on his site) or to someone else who has seen African giraffes in action. Msk49 17:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] how meny spine bones giraffe have ?
how meny spine bones giraffe have ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.68.48.212 (talk) 19:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
- work on your spelling, please
- Please don't bite the newcomers.... the answer is that a giraffe has as many bones in its aspine as any other mammel - see that article for details.
- Please sign your comments. There is no link to an article titled mammel. The article about mammals can be found here. Spelling is important. Comme le Lapin 07:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please don't bite the newcomers.... the answer is that a giraffe has as many bones in its aspine as any other mammel - see that article for details.
[edit] Contradiction
In the opening paragraph, the article states "Males can be 4.8 to 5.5 metres (16 to 18 feet) tall", while in teh "Physical characteristics" section, it states "Male giraffes are around 15–17 feet tall". Can someone find out what is right and correct thinsg accordingly? Tompw (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's probably 15-18 feet tall. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.208.51 (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC).
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- Perhaps people who don't know about giraffes shouldn't contribute to articles about giraffes. Just a suggestion. Comme le Lapin 06:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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- In the article about The African Bush Elephant it states that the Male can be anywhere from 19-24 feet tall, much higher than what it says of the giraffe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.249.148.200 (talk) 01:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
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- That's simply incorrect. Giraffes grow as tall as 18 feet, and maybe a few inches more, while African elephants grow to a height of 13 feet. Unfortunately, 24-foot tall elephants can only be found in Tolkien. Comme le Lapin 06:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I just read the African Bush Elephant article, and the 19-24 feet you were referring to is not their height, but their length. This is correct. Comme le Lapin 07:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] black tongues to prevent sunburn?
This needs a citation. The san diego zoo only says "Some people think the color is to keep the tongue from getting sunburned.", they don't say that's why its black. A stronger scientifc source for the statement in the article would be most welcome. --Matthew 02:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think that's true, given as how okapis also have black tongues like giraffes, and they don't expose themselves to bright light.--Mr Fink 03:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Baby Giraffes
When baby giraffes are born, are their bones already entirely fused together or do they fuse while the baby is growing similar to human beings? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.243.193.254 (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC).
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Giraffe was a good article candidate, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. Once the objections listed below are addressed, the article can be renominated. You may also seek a review of the decision if you feel there was a mistake.
Date of review: 16 August 2006 |
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Giraffe is included in the 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection, or is a candidate for inclusion in the next version. Please maintain high quality standards and, if possible, stick to GFDL-compatible images. |
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This article is within the scope of the Africa WikiProject, a collaborative effort to build a more detailed guide on Wikipedia's coverage of the continent of Africa. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. | |
| B | This article has been rated as B-class on the quality scale. |
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[edit] Good article nomination
This article is very well written. It touches on many fascinating topics, and is obviously NPOV. The images are well used, and add to the article as nicely as the text. I've place this nomination on hold, however, because of concerns over references, and suggestions that may warrant additions. Many statements are made in the article that really need very thorough referencing. For example, "Giraffes are thought to be mute. However, recent research has shown evidence that the animal communicates at an infrasound level." Thought by whom? Who did this research? The inline citations are sporadic and, in certain sections, missing entirely. The presence of "citation needed" templates in the text makes this unsuitable for good article status presently, but since these changes are ones that could be made easily within a week, I decided to place the nomination on hold. Furthermore, I two content concerns, but I think they are easily fixed in an article of this length, and hence I've waited before failing on this account. Basically, my chief concern is that the first reference cited is in the infobox and lists the giraffe as threatened. Unfortunately, this is a very loose end since there is no exploration of any sort of conservation efforts, or any mention of the actual threats facing the giraffe. I would suggest a section dealing with human/giraffe interaction, including threats, efforts made to preserve the animal, etc. I would also suggest a section in culture and literature, though this can be done bulleted, or in summary, and is also doable in seven days, even if not as thorough as it could be (this is for good article, not featured, after all!). I enjoyed this article! Good job to those who contributed! Cheers! Chuchunezumi 00:47, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Please note that the intention to improve this article in the suggested ways must be announced here within the next twenty-four hours in order to maintain the seven day hold; please make it clear whether these can be accomplished, and whether they are planned. I cannot fathom these changes will be able to be accomplished in any less time. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 01:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, as nobody has rushed to address these issues, and also because there still seems to be several edits still in progress raising further stability issues, I regret I have to fail this article. I encourage the editors to address these concerns and then renominate this article. Cheers! Chuchunezumi 02:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- The section Other Behavior needs revision. It is not true that a giraffe has a "specially-adapted tongue and lips that appear to be immune to the vicious thorns [of acacia trees.]" See a botany website (Wayne's Word) with pictures of the great big thorns in question. The author explains that a giraffe uses its extremely long, prehensile tongue to wrap around tender acacia leaves and pluck them. It would be most helpful to link to relevant Wayne's Word photographs (which are copyright W.P. Armstrong on his site) or to someone else who has seen African giraffes in action. Msk49 17:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] how meny spine bones giraffe have ?
how meny spine bones giraffe have ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.68.48.212 (talk) 19:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
- work on your spelling, please
- Please don't bite the newcomers.... the answer is that a giraffe has as many bones in its aspine as any other mammel - see that article for details.
- Please sign your comments. There is no link to an article titled mammel. The article about mammals can be found here. Spelling is important. Comme le Lapin 07:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- Please don't bite the newcomers.... the answer is that a giraffe has as many bones in its aspine as any other mammel - see that article for details.
[edit] Contradiction
In the opening paragraph, the article states "Males can be 4.8 to 5.5 metres (16 to 18 feet) tall", while in teh "Physical characteristics" section, it states "Male giraffes are around 15–17 feet tall". Can someone find out what is right and correct thinsg accordingly? Tompw (talk) 14:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- It's probably 15-18 feet tall. :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.122.208.51 (talk) 18:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC).
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- Perhaps people who don't know about giraffes shouldn't contribute to articles about giraffes. Just a suggestion. Comme le Lapin 06:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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- In the article about The African Bush Elephant it states that the Male can be anywhere from 19-24 feet tall, much higher than what it says of the giraffe —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.249.148.200 (talk) 01:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
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- That's simply incorrect. Giraffes grow as tall as 18 feet, and maybe a few inches more, while African elephants grow to a height of 13 feet. Unfortunately, 24-foot tall elephants can only be found in Tolkien. Comme le Lapin 06:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I just read the African Bush Elephant article, and the 19-24 feet you were referring to is not their height, but their length. This is correct. Comme le Lapin 07:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] black tongues to prevent sunburn?
This needs a citation. The san diego zoo only says "Some people think the color is to keep the tongue from getting sunburned.", they don't say that's why its black. A stronger scientifc source for the statement in the article would be most welcome. --Matthew 02:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think that's true, given as how okapis also have black tongues like giraffes, and they don't expose themselves to bright light.--Mr Fink 03:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Baby Giraffes
When baby giraffes are born, are their bones already entirely fused together or do they fuse while the baby is growing similar to human beings? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.243.193.254 (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Paris
In 1827, someone brought back a Giraffe whom was named Zarafa to Paris where it roamed the city where it amazed the townspeople and royalty alike. Such an animal had almost never been seen by anyone living in Europe at the time. I feel such inforamtion is relavent and related to the article section that makes refrence to: Chinese painting of a giraffe brought by Admiral Zheng He and placed in a Ming Dynasty zoo (AD 1414)
- http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4309/is_200505/ai_n15021019
- http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1511/is_11_19/ai_57564236
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarafa
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medici_giraffe
--Root Beers 06:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
