Talk:Japanese Imperial succession controversy
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I changed "clearly" in the last paragraph to "currently" as all other views but equal primogeniture had been receiving minimum, if at all, media attention. Also, I erased "a traditonalist" after Prince Tomohito as unless those promoting equal primogeniture were called something too, it would be impartial. Also added, "prior to his comment" after "Public surveys" as that's a fact. -- Revth 07:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Can somebody clarify. Assuming that there is no change in the law of succession, and the current royals do not either adopt a child or have a new one, who is heir to the throne? PatGallacher 01:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Have a look here: Imperial_Household_of_Japan#Current_order_of_succession. The problem may be that all these people are of at least Naruhito's generation (at least in their 40s) and will probably live little longer than Naruhito, hence the need for a young male heir (but there are only girls in the younger generation). laug 17:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I think Jingu Kogo merits at least some sort of mention among those included on the list of "ruling empresses in Japanese history".216.99.228.120 11:24, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Collateral imperial branches?
Is there a real danger of the male-line imperial family completely dying out? Japanese_imperial_family#Succession implies that there are collateral branches of the family out there -- individuals who are male-line descendents of former emperors but not part of the current core Japanese imperial family. Would there be an heir to the throne if the current family died out and a strict Salic law succession algorithm was applied? --Jfruh 16:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I believe the old lines all died out in the early 20th century... the current collateral lines are branches which took on the "old names" but are in reality decended from Hirohito's brothers... and they too have a male succession problem. Could be wrong though. --fdewaele 18:45 23 January 2006 (CET)
On the contrary, seven of the eleven cadet branches of the imperial dynasty (one shinnōke and six ōke)that became commoners in October 1947 survive. The surviving cadet lines are Fushimi, Kitshirakawa, Takeda, Kuni, Kaya, Nashimoto, Asaka, and Higashikuni. The last six families descend from the Fushimi house. None of them descend from the Emperor Shōwa's brothers, Prince Chichibu, Prince Takamatsu, and Prince Mikasa. Although Prince Takamastu succeeded to the headship of the extinct Arisugawa house (one of the four shinnōke of the Edo period, which reverted to its orginal name Takamatsu), he and his wife had no children. Likewise, Prince and Princess Chichibu were childless. Only Prince Mikasa had children: three sons and two daughters. Two of the sons, Prince Tomohito of Mikasa and the late Prince Takamado (Nobuhito), married and had children: two and three daughters, respectively. Prince Mikasa's middle son, Yoshihito, revived the dormant Katsura house in 1988. However, the current Prince Katsura is unmarried. --Jeff 00:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
To fdewaele. As Jeff explained, none of the eleven cadet branches which are called as "the ex-Imperial houses" descend from the Emperor Shōwa's brothers. However, four of them descend from his one daughter and the Emperor Meiji's four ones. The both is Higashikuni, the latter only are Kitashirakawa, Takeda, and Asaka.--INOUE, Keisuke 08:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Current Event
I'm thinking it might be best to put the 'current event' thing in this, considering how Prince Hisahiro was born only a few months ago. Anakalypsis 02:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Nope, that's not what {{current event}} is for. It's meant to be used in articles which are likely to change a lot in the next few hours or days. —Nightstallion (?) 15:01, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hello
I am INOUE, Keisuke, a Japanese wikipedian who have a great interest in this controversy. I had contributed to only Japanese pages, until finding this English page today. My writing is thus poor, but reading comprehension is a little better, so I thik I could contribute slightly to this English page too. If there are any questions about circumstance and atmosphere in Japan now, or Japanese texts which you want to be translated into English, please feel free to ask me!! --INOUE, Keisuke 21:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think your English is great, and welcome! Chris 22:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. But if you find any my errors in grammar or bad selections of vocabulary, particularly the article and the tense, please correct them freely.--INOUE, Keisuke 08:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Imperial vs imperial
As Emperor, Empress are capitalized in the article, shouldn't this article be the "Japanese Imperial succession controversy"? Jpatokal 13:26, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wrong descriptions
A precedent, Empress Koken's relationship with a foreign man, had however not then been an obstacle for her to reascend the throne as Empress Shotoku.
She never had love affairs with a foreign man. The man whom she loved was a Japanese monk who came from what is Osaka Prefecture today. And she did not marry him (or anyone else). (Aya4 04:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC))
it is widely believed that Abe opposes any change to the current succession law.
Prime Minister Abe does not oppose all plans to alter the law. He insists that the law be reformed into a more traditionally correct one. I cannot find an English source for it. But read [1] if you read Japanese. (Aya4 06:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC))
