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[edit] Misc
I think it is worth mentioning in the article, how knuckles reacts to sonic's death in the new game. even though he is not a very emotional character, but he shows obvious distress at his death. He is also one of the happiest characters when sonic is saved. When Amy says she will save it him, Knuckles does a sort of weird heel kicking dance, and when sonic transforms, knuckles can be seen leaping into the air with glee.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.145.241.105 (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
P.S. My name is Knux fan, and i would appreciate an answer. Unsigned indeed...
[edit] Knuckles pic
Does anyone have a pic of Knuckles from Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)? Just wondering, cause the pic from Shadow the Hedgehog probably needs to be replaced. It seems kinda old, considering just about every other character in Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) has had their new pics put up. BlackEDGE MkII 00:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- We might get one tomorrow if there's another site updateGrandMasterGalvatron 21:22, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- First of all, I agree that we should use his art from the new Sonic the Hedgehog, but the only place where I've seen it is at the official American site for the game.
I think just 'bout everyone has forgotten 'bout this topic. BlackEDGE MkII 21:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- There was no update that day :/ Perhaps this week?GrandMasterGalvatron 14:09, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- This is really getting annoying. We need to update this pciture. Hello2112 23:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Just wait til the JPN site updates. Is it that hard?GrandMasterGalvatron 05:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- They probobly won't update Knuckles' picture on the JPN site until the game comes out. That's what I'm guessing, at least. Emerald__Storm 23:14, 5 December (UTC)
- There. Updated today and now it's up there. Now wasn't it worth the wait? :PGrandMasterGalvatron 16:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Great job! = )Emerald__Storm 17:38, 8 December
- There. Updated today and now it's up there. Now wasn't it worth the wait? :PGrandMasterGalvatron 16:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- They probobly won't update Knuckles' picture on the JPN site until the game comes out. That's what I'm guessing, at least. Emerald__Storm 23:14, 5 December (UTC)
- Just wait til the JPN site updates. Is it that hard?GrandMasterGalvatron 05:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
All right, Grandmastergalvatron! DeathGodDragon EDGE 02:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC) Knuckles looks kind of like Sinbad in one of the photos.
[edit] Why?
So I added Sonic 3D Blast to the list of games in which Knuckles plays a minor part in the plot and it was instantly deleted! Why? He can be seen hanging around every level and he takes you to a special stage when you go up to him with 50 rings! If that doesn't count as an appearance, I don't know what does. - Davros27
Yeah I remember seeing Knuckles in that game. staceeSHAW 00:18, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wait....
If the Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 game) article uses the newest Knuckles pic, then why doesn't this article use it as well? (I am the same guy who asked about the pic earlier, BlackEDGE MkII.) Aguni Dragon-OX 02:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The picture of him in Shadow should be further down the list when it appears. Also, I have a question: on the note of games, are we going to/should we elaborate as to Knuckles' role in the games? Knuckles sonic8 21:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
The regular size one has yet to be released. All we have is a small version. When a normal size one is out, it will be used.GrandMasterGalvatron 22:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Uh, I have a question. On the Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 game) article it has a picture of all the characters. Whenever I click on Knuckles's picture, it turnes out small, but when I click on everyone elses picture they all turn out bigger. Emerald__Storm 19:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
At least we have the Sonic 2006 pic, but it seems fuzzy. Does anyone have a high res or less fuzzy pic? Aguni Dragon-OX 22:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Thats odd i've never seen a fuzzy wikipedia pic.
[edit] Ummm...
What happened to Knuckles' theme songs? Just curious. DeathGodDragon EDGE 22:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok, someone put his songs up. Thanks (whoever put em up)! DeathGodDragon EDGE 23:00, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Detail
I mentioned this a few posts up but it never got answered: are we going to/should we elaborate as to Knuckles' role in the games? Knuckles sonic8 20:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC) the fanshrine garbage is something to delete.
Fixed. If you want to obsess creepily over Knuckles online, go set up a Knuckles Fanshrinesite or whatever you people do. 58.169.219.233 01:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wha...
Someone just frickin screwed up Knux's page!!! DeathGodDragon EDGE 02:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
And now it's back to its pathetic, nerdy glory. Or is it? 58.169.219.233 04:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
What's that supposed to mean? DeathGodDragon EDGE 22:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fleetway Storyline
I think there's room for major improvement under that heading. I know nothing about Knuckles, so I can't really help, but I would suggest focusing on facts relevant to "the modern day Knuckles" rather than on nuances of history. Certainly, it would be good to remove most of the analysis and interpretation. This is not some sort of "OMG ASPERGER'S THIS PAGE IS SO DAMN LONG" comment. Actually, it's just that any page reads much better when it's to-the-point and doesn't daze the reader with randomness. Long rambling text blocks often get skipped over, or skimmed with little comprehension. --GenkiNeko 16:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Knuckles the Ninja Echidna
I just have to ask. What wide variety of martial arts is this most capable creature skilled in? --GenkiNeko 16:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- Judging from his gloves, I would think it was a form of freestyle boxing. Either way, he's definately been shown to have the most experience in fighting with his hands. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.62.65.92 (talk) 21:04, 11 December 2006 (UTC).
On the history of the earth I never saw Mike Tyson ,or Muhammad Ali with spikes on their gloves That would be because it would be illiegal in stage boxing. They're kinda like knuckledusters.
[edit] Knuckles;s owen game?
There's a rumor going around that a game called Knuckles's The Enchidna is going to be released on the Playstation 3 any one else herd this rumor.Themasterofwiki 22:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Not going to happen. I highly, highly doubt it. Where did you hear this rumor from, anyway? Seriously, if that happens, I think people would be pissed more than anything else--considering how Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic the Hedgehog turned out. I'll keep my eye out for it, anyway, but I doubt it will occur. Heh, TSS announced a Knuckles game for DS, once. It was a hoax, though, of course, made for April Fool's Day. --Ultima 20:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC) i've never heard of TSS I doubt this is gonna be a real game. Where did you hear this on, a forum? DeathGodDragon EDGE 21:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I read it in Game Informer magizene that a Knuckles The Enchidna game had been annouced by Sega on November 29 for the Playstation 3 the game is currently in the works the plot is about Knuckles figuring out the past of the echindna's it is rumored to be released around early 2008.Themasterofwiki 23:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC) I subscribed thru EB Games for Game Informer and I never read that. I'll keep an eye out for any info too. Emerald__Storm 19:07, 15 December (UTC)
I'm in doubt, but I'll keep my eyes and ears open as well. DeathGodDragon EDGE 21:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
He's lying, it's not in any Game Informers I've read, and I've got the past EIGHT issues. Finally, a use for that Magazine. -Chao9999 03:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Well guess it's a fake then.Themasterofwiki 18:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia
Should we mention that Knuckles was originally going to be green? I cant remember where I read it but I'll see if I can find it. I swear I remember some info on Knuckles character originally going to be green. Though I was probably dreaming it. But...oh well. staceeSHAW 00:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC) That probably later turned into the character Tikal
[edit] Anyone Notice That...
Even though it says Knux is taller than Sonic, in more recent games (06, Heroes), Knux is shorter than Sonic? ChromeWulf ZX 02:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Never mind. In Heroes Knux was standing behind Sonic, which was why he looked shorter. I'm still undeceided about 06, though. ChromeWulf ZX 03:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Is Knuckles an antagonist?
I thought that Knuckles was the main antagonist to Sonic.
- Not Since Sonic and Knuckles apparently... he's now more like just a friendly rival. --Zikar 02:39, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Knuckles wasn't ever really an antagonist, just an anti-hero. Since becoming friends with Sonic, he has become a rival..although he appears to have descended into the realm of the sidekick. User:Denjo
Nah, Knux was just misguided by Eggman. Him and Sonic are friendly rivals. ChromeWulf ZX 22:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC) I Agree
[edit] Family
I respectfully request that people stop putting up information on Knuckles' family from Archie. That stuff is covered in Knuckles the Echidna (Archie character). Athair is the only relative of Knuckles who should be listed in this article. That is all. User:Denjo
[edit] VANDALISM ALERT!!
SOMEONE KEEPS DELETING THE LINKS FROM RELATIONSHIPS. I JUST WANNA LET HIM KNOW THAT HE WILL BE BANNED FROM EVEN READING THE SITE! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tommy55 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
- Oh my...you're gonna ban me for deleting your pointless listcruft? I'd like to see that happen XDGrandMasterGalvatron 16:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
No fighting ladysSonicrules2 00:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules2
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- sigh* When a man is wrong, and won't admit it, he always gets angry. That seems to be exactly what's going on here. --Luigifan 02:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Relevance of section
Actually, this is an issue I have with ALL of the Sonic articles, I'm just using Knuckles as my scapegoat because it's convenient at this time. (READ: I was in his article)
About the "relationships" sections: honestly, who the hell cares? Why is it important that the love life of said fictional character be documented anywhere outside of an official series website, an in-universe Sonic Wiki, or a fansite? Again, I'm not just picking on Knuckles, I got this issue with everyone (though admittedly, Sonic's is documented the best). The Rouge battles got me thinking that the entire staple of Sonic Character articles is majorly fancrufty...including Sonic's. (though once again, his is less notable). I think all of the character articles are in need of some major retooling..especially Sonic's, which is ridiculously long and could do with being split up into several articles.
As far as this site goes, more focus should be put on the characters' relevance to the media overall. The super transformation article is a prime example of how this can be done, even with its structural faults). It's very much to the point about the feature, and the various gameplay niggles associated with it. As per wiki standards, there needs to be less of writing like the characters are real. The point needs to be driven home that these are fictional characters as opposed to actual creatures. Game characters need to have their relevance to the games they're in highlighted, and cartoon characters should focus on their role in the series overall. The lengthier articles should go to characters who appear in both forms, but not enough to warrant splitting like Sonic, Knuckles and the super modes.
As the first step towards this, I think the whole relationships deal has got to go. It's been nothing but a breeding ground for shippers.
I want to discuss all of this here if possible, and gather other opinions on it.
That said, there really needs to be an in-universe Sonic Wiki.GrandMasterGalvatron 00:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
A Sonic Wiki would probably be the best way to shorten the articles of fancruft, yes... Hell, we could probably remove entire articles such as Little Planet or Mystic Ruins from Wikipedia then. Gurko 08:59, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
PLEASE LISTEN UP! I got it, and I won't break any rules, I swear. But please, make the text visible, OK? I am the hugest lover of the KNUXRouge couple in the entire universe, and it means a lot to me. Thank you very much!!!!!!!!! Tommy55 I BEG YOU WITH ALL MY HEART!!!!! PLEASE MAKE THE TEXT VISIBLE!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!! I DODN'T KNOW THAT IT IS RULE-BREAKING, CUZ I DIDN'T READ YOUR MESSAGES UNTIL TODAY! PLEASE !!! I BEG U!!!!!!!!!
That is exactly why it must go. It's breeding ground for couple shippers. Just because you like Knuckles/Rouge doesn't make it an actual couple. To give you an example of the effects your edits have on others, I like Shadow/Rouge, and Knuckles/Julie-Su. Do you think taking out Shadow's section like you have done would please someone like me? Especially when the latter has become way more prominent than the former. The section as a whole is relevant to only a small minority of people and would be seen as trivial to most. Unless you could provide a valid reason why the love lives of these characters is worth documenting in a general knowledge encyclopedia, then it's got to go.
Also, I'd recommend starting a Knuckles/Rouge fansite, or joining a deviantArt club :)GrandMasterGalvatron 22:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
PLEAS READ THIS!!!! here is my reason: It is isn't just fan-stuff. I can understand you, and please excuse me. But it IS a relationship! We can't just delete the whole section! If it would be just fan-stuff, I would totally agree with you. But is has been officially confirmed by Sega, that Rouge has a crush on him! Really! It isn't nonsense! Please look at sonic Channel, 4kids tv, or sonic Central! I beg you, please make it visible! It IS official!!! PLEASE! And sorry for breaking-rules, I didn't know that I did so. Please! Please!!!IT ISN'T JUST SPECULATION!!! I BEG YOU!!!
I already joined that deviantart group :P
Having a crush doesn't make a romantic relationship. A romantic relationship would involve two parties who both have feelings toward each other. Officially, Knuckles's feelings towards Rouge are unknown. You can interpret what happens in the games all you want, but it's been left very ambiguous. That means that saying that he likes her is speculation at most. Something I'd personally like to know are your reasons for deleting the entire sections on Shadow and Rouge's connection or whatever.
Now the thing is, I'm against the section as a whole, regardless of the characters involved. It just doesn't seem that important to be somehwere like here.GrandMasterGalvatron 16:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LEAVING THE TEXT UP! I AM EXTREMELY GRATEFUL!!! THANK YOU! I OWE YOU! I WON'T FORGET THIS!!!!!!!! THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excuse me, but I did not restore the text...and I've hidden it again, this is far from over. Also you haven't told me why you've been blanking the data on Shadow.GrandMasterGalvatron 18:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
HELLO! I see. I can't tell you anything but I beg you. And I deleted the section because it was annoying that some people modify or delete TRUE things from KNUCKLES' section, so it was some kind of revenge. SORRY!!!! I won't break any rules, I swear!!! How can I make you understand? ( this sounds like Tikal in Adventure...:P) So, please!!!! Tommy
It IS OFFICIAL and TRUE. It ISN'T just speculation. It isn't just present in sonic X: sonic Central and sonic Channel (which are related to the games) ALSO mention Rouge's feelings, not only the anime. And we should keep it even if only the anime would mention it, but the games mention it too, so we can't just delete the whole stuff!!!!
NO. Knuckles doesn't like Rouge that way. AT ALL. The section as a whole is nothing but a breeding ground for fanboys and shippers, and you've shown that so well. Also, quit deleting things about Shadow! Lastly, Knuckles is number THREE in the character list. Not 1st, but THIRD. Shadow is first, and Metal Sonic is second. Why don't you take a moment to look at the reference cited. No amount of fanboyism on your part is going to change that, and it won't change what lies between Shadow and Rouge. Stop deleting it just because you don't like it. Rouge and Knuckles have a rivalry and nothing more. That's been made evident ever since Heroes. Also, Sonic Rivals has made it evident that whatever the feelings are between Shadow and Rouge (we still don't know the extent) are mutual. The dead giveaway to that being that he said the Rouge card (which had her imprisoned) was his. That's OFFICIAL and TRUE (as you like to say).
If you want this section to stay, you've got to convince me that it would actually matter to anyone not a Sonic fan. The common GTA player doesn't give a slag about Knuckles's love life. As such, it doesn't need to be on this general knowledge encyclopedia.
Actually, think about that. Would you expect to open a copy of the Encyclopedia Britannica and find things about Knuckles and Rouge? Hell, do you even expect to find Knuckles in there? That's how much it doesn't matter. If this were a Sonic wiki, then it'd be all good. Actually, there IS a Sonic Wiki now that I think of it, it's called Sonic Retro. Go on and find it, and post all this stuff there.GrandMasterGalvatron 22:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Age
Knuckles was originally 15 years old when he made his debut in Sonic the Hedgehog 3, and was changed to age 16 in Sonic Adventure. --PJ Pete
He got older.Simple. to5to
[edit] Tense
Plot should be written in present tense. I'll edit it if and when I get the chance. Paul Haymon 05:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- But, shouldn't stuff that happened in the past be written in past tense? --Luigifan 11:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
