Talk:Marty Friedman (guitarist)

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Contents 1 Discography 2 NPOV 3 dragon's kiss 4 excellent vibrato? 5 Heavy Metal San 6 Japanese Fluency 7 Megadeth and Discography 8 Marty's Religion 9 Info Box Picture

[edit] Discography

A discography of his solo stuff would be tight. I might do it. So this is sort of to remind me. But hey if anyone else wants to do it PLEASE FEEL FREE to. --Eel 06:30, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

there we go, discography added. thanks. --Eel 08:16, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

This article desperately needs an NPOV revision.

I'm a fan of Friedman. I own and enjoy Scenes, Introduction, etc. -- but this article reads like a fan letter, not an encyclopedia article.

yeah, I definitely agree to that, but I don't think I'd be the write person for the job due to my tragic love for Marty. --Eel 08:03, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] dragon's kiss

anyone got a source on dragon's kiss being released in 1990? allmusic guide says 1988, but i hear it's prone to be mistaken. --Eel 21:33, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Metal Archives says 1988, and so does Marty's website (but it also states the CD version of the album was released in 1990, which might be where the confusion came from). I've changed it until anyone can provide a reliable source saying otherwise.

Which part of this article seems wrong? ---- Teknomancer

[edit] excellent vibrato?

"He is also known for having excellent vibrato."

I disagree. Relative to another neo-classical player, Yngwie Malmsteen, Friedman's vibrato is rather weak. Unless anyone argues against it, I will remove this sentence in a week.

You have one example to compare him against? Mphudson 04:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

• what does having excellent vibrato have to do with marty friedman's skillset anyway? oh, and here are a few examples: Joe Satriani, Gary Moore. LyTe 19:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

No rock guitarist is "known for having excellent vibrato." In fact, the only guitarist in the history of Western music who has been "known for having excellent vibrato" is B.B. King. This is a rather stupid comment — particularly when you consider that vibrato requires that a note be held for some duration and Friedman, like most any metal guitarist, is specifically known for fast runs and rapid arpeggios.

In fact, the only guitarist in the history of Western music who has been "known for having excellent vibrato" is B.B. King." Now that is astupid comment, absolute rubbish indeed. In fact, it was BB King who said that "you can identify a great guitarist by his virbrato alone". I presume that this was not a purely self-referntial claim! And as for your comment: "...consider that vibrato requires that a note be held for some duration and Friedman, like most any metal guitarist, is specifically known for fast runs and rapid arpeggios." This merely reveals an ignorance about guitar technique or vibrato, or both, and it certainly evidences a limited view of what metal guitar is, and can be.Dusksailor 15:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

• So true. Marty has great feel in his own eclectic way of playing, but saying he has excellent vibrato without mentioning the rest of his skillset is doing great injustice to him. he's a technical master, yes, an arpeggio wiz, true, and of course, a thrash master (eg., Dragon's Kiss). LyTe 23:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Heavy Metal San

I'm just noting that I am altering the translation of "hebimeta-san" into the Anglofied form of Heavy Metal-San. It's what the title was intended to be, and leaving it in romaji seems counter productive as the katakana follows it. I thought I'd take this note here in case anyone has any huge problems with it. Silvanos 14:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree with it. The first problem is that not everyone is able to read katakana. The romanized name of the program is imo vital, since it shows to those who can't read Japanese what the program is called. The current form makes it seem as though it is called "Heavy Metal-san", while it's not called that way. It's called Hebimeta-san, with Hebimeta meaning "Heavy Metal." I think the form should be "... hebimeta-san ([katakana], hebimeta meaning heavy metal)..." Aecis ^{Appleknocker Flophouse} 19:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

anglofied? what's that? Retropunk 09:23, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Alright, seems fair enough. I'll revise it as such to denote both hebimeta and heavy-metal san

[edit] Japanese Fluency

I don't know how to cite the fact on his Japanese fluency. If you live in Japan, you can hear him speaking fluent Japanese quite often. Can we remove this "citation needed" request? It may be hard to imagine elsewhere but it's so obvious here...Poisonotter 13:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

You have to find a reliable citation that says he speaks Japanese. Unfortunately someone saying they saw or heard him doing it is considered original research and not allowed. Good luck! :) --Aguerriero (talk) 16:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I've found two sources, from his official website though, but it's better than nothing. http://www.martyfriedman.com/info_archive_detail.php?id=6&det=74 (at Q20) and http://www.martyfriedman.com/info_detail.php?id=7 (in facts section). Found more: http://www.the-fuze.com/martyfriedman.html an interview. I'll try adding it. Grinder0-0 23:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the Japanese fluency is as interesting as determining when he became fluent in Japanese 128.113.148.163 08:04, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Megadeth and Discography

The section about Marty and Megadeth is only two sentences, still he was in the band for ten years, shouldn't it be expanded? His influences on the band's sound, especially on Rust in Peace is noticable (and it's concidered one of Megadeth's and thrash metal's greatest albums). And just linking to Megadeth discography does not give a real image of what albums he participated in, you have to go through one or two articles from that link to find that information. I'll try to add something, talk here! Grinder0-0 23:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, so I just wrote a new piece in the new Megadeth section of his career. It's a bit sloppy and I'll come back soon and clean it up, and I'll also add a Megadeth discography section with his albums Grinder0-0 00:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Forgot to mention in "edit summary": Changed infobox, made clear megadeth discography, though I may change it to one without pictures instead, I don't know. Also, I rephrased the opening bit. Still to make the Megadeth section better and encyclopedic. Grinder0-0 20:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marty's Religion

The article is in the category "Jewish musicians", still there aren't any reference or official thing on his website that he is jewish. I googled his website for "jew" and "religion", founding two questions from fans that are interesting: http://www.martyfriedman.com/fans_faq_content.php?id=3596 and http://www.martyfriedman.com/fans_faq_content.php?id=2389 (strange question, but still). It seems that he wants his religion to be private, or just thinks it's fun having people wonder about it. Grinder0-0 23:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info Box Picture

I emailed Marty's website manager for promission to use one of his images as the main picuture for the article. This article has not had a stable picture for a long time. If you have or know of any please add it!!Adumbvoget 18:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)