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Complete credit for the creation of this page should go to Aotearoa as I basically cut and pasted that users text that was previously on the national anthem page into a new article that already had a page linking to a redlinked page, waiting for this one to be created. All I did weas create the page, cleaned up the text a little, and that's it. --Canuckguy 01:50, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad this article was turned from a red link to a blue link. I created the red link so that the main article on the US anthem could become less cluttered. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 06:41, 16 February 2006 (UTC)


Oh brother. Talk about POV in this article. I'm putting the POV warning on the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.34.183.29 (talk • contribs).

You need to indicate why with some specificity, so that we can discuss it. Otherwise, policy is to remove the tag. See WP:NPOV dispute#Adding a page Derex 23:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

This page seems accurate to me. What is disputed about it?

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It appears that supporters of this project are unable to tolerate objective discussion of its implications with reference to published scholarly work (March, 2007). Instead, they keep deleting references in this entry to scholarly journal articles that challenge the legitimacy and usefulness of this project for the improvement of music education. One would hope that those who so enthusiastically rally around "The Star Spangled Banner" would be able to endure the freedom of information with which the flag is so often associated in the American mind. Is free access to truthful information unAmerican? Why keep deleting references to relevant research?

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The supporters of this project seem to be turning this entry into an advertisement for them and their sponsors.

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Yes, this page is definitely being transformed into an ad by supporters of this project.

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This entry continues to be attacked with vandalism and spam in support of the National Anthem Project. It is preferable for balanced content to be maintained so readers are aware of the ongoing debates concerning this project and can make up their own minds.

[edit] POV

I see major POV in this section.


(4) The Star Spangled Banner has long been contested as an appropriate national anthem for the United States. Its melody is borrowed directly from an old drinking song “To Anacreon in Heaven”, and it features the most militaristic lyrics of all major national anthems in the world, with phrases such as “bombs bursting in air”, “conquer we must, when our cause it is just, let this be our motto”, etc. Rather than promoting this song, the largest arts educators organization could advocate for a song that is both lyrically and musically appropriate relative to other national anthems in the world (such as “America the Beautiful”).


Not only is this POV, it's also wrong. The Mexican National Anthem is far worse in regards of militarism.

--- Also: The French National Anthem speaks of saving liberty from persons who wish to "slit the throats of [their] sons and wives".

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