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Have a look at our website: http://www.nisgaahall.ca
Also have a look at my website, it is total information on our culture, history, language and traditions.
http://www.citytel.net/~nisga1/
- 19:38, 2005 May 14 208.181.163.89 (talk • contribs)
[edit] need for separate nation/ethno article vs. one for the Nisga'a Nation government
Just a note to mention the need to create a more fully-fleshed out Nisga'a cultural/historical article, and also for a separate article, even a stub-like one, for the Nisga'a government; this is to conform to emerging standards within the Indigenous Peoples Wikiproject; the reason is that in many cases ethno/culture articles and government/organization articles do NOT coincide; this is more or less not the case here, but making the separation between articles will help with indexing and x-referencing and just being, well, precise.Skookum1 20:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps more importantly, we need a separate and expanded article on the 2000 Nisga'a agreement. - TheMightyQuill 06:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Came by looking for certain declaration date, but...
This caught my eye:
- The land-claim's settlement was the first formal treaty between a First Nation and the Province of British Columbia in modern times.
Actually, I believe the proper wording there is ...and the Province of British Columbia. Period, ever, that's it. The only prior treaties (I think) were with the Colony of British Columbia - and wait a minute, with the Colony of Vancouver Island, that is. I don't think there were any with the Province, unless the Treaty 6 areas were somehow acknowledged by the early BC regime when it joined Confederation (?).Skookum1 07:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
PS What I'd been looking for is the date of the Nisga'a Declaration of the 1890s (1880s or so) and the subsequent political lobbying/organization of the Nisga'a chiefs, both within Nisga'a Lands and in concert with other First Nations; this for a redlink I left on the Declaration of the Lillooet Tribe article. I'd like there to be an available Wiki representation/listing of all such documents in BC history; i.e. the assertions of sovereignty and self-rule which underpin the current claims debate/context, which most people don't know existed/went on. It was declarations like the Nisga'a and Lillooet ones that helped trip over the Potlach Law, because these guys were making too much sense and, in fact, had a lot of support in the non-native community (until after the Great War anyway, which changed the political context on the ground and also wiped out a lot of the prior settlers who had become pro-native during their tenure here (in-migrant Brits in the remittance man days tended to side with the natives, at least rhetorically; it was the governments and corporationswho didn't want their investment bases harmed that didn't want the politiciking, IMO, not the moneyed and often highly educated and small-l liberal in-migrants from the Auld Sod. Anyway, that's a long original research-y kind of thing to discuss, but the idea here is that the BC and BC First Nations history Wikipages can do a lot in the way of providing basic materials, as well as contexts that are habitually left out of more controlled editorial environments (e.g. curriculum, government pronouncements etc.).Skookum1 07:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of external links in main text/body
I just noticed the list of Nisga'a organizations and governments in the body of the text is made out of external links; those belong only in the "External links" section and what should be in the main body is, if anything, plain text, but in the case of needed articles - as all of these are, or most of them maybe - it's best to redlink them (see Sto:lo and St'at'imc, although I'm working my way through all tribal councils and band governments throughout BC to bluelink everything with at least stubs, and appropriately cat (as it "to cat") their various categories and interrelationships. I tried going back through the history to see when these went in, but it's back quite a ways before my last visit so I must not have noticed on the first time through; this is one of the more thorough First Nations pages for BC, by the way, and has taken advantage of Wiki's article-buildling depth to build profiles of Nisga'a people/personalities in ways not yet done for other BC First Nations; impressive, but needs work to bring it into line with Wiki standards, and I daresay a Featured Article status once all its subarticles are done and its content and those of related argticles (e.g. Nisga'a Nation, which may redirect here - ? - should be for the Nisga'a government, this page is about history, culture, people, ethnography....) is fleshed out; I'd imagine there's already a separate article on the Nisga'a Treaty and the negotiation history behind it - ?? - should be high-priority anyway, if not extant, whatever its proper article/agreement/document title....).Skookum1 08:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks; tried to fix Laxgalts'ap but still not sure about why that unicode so leaving it until you fix it; is that an underline-g or ??. And I'm not sure about this, and of course you would be, but if the appropriate name for the Nisga'a government is Nisga'a Lisims, that should probably be the main government article instead of Nisga'a Nation; I've been intending on some kind of list or history on the early/ongoing efforts to address constitutional/treaty issues since colonial times, and so of course the Nisga'a efforts from c.1890 or so are front-and-centre; turns up in bios of Premiers, judges and such I've been reading up on; docs involved might be best put in WikiSource, although for now there's ones like Declaration of the Lillooet Tribe I'd put in main Wikipedia, but apparently they're "source documents" so should go to WikiSource instead; that would include texts of historical material as well as current constitutional/treaty material.Skookum1 19:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nisga'a Lisims it is, so any government reference should refer to the Nisga'a Lisims Government with the corresponding Nisga'a term: Wilp Si’ayuukhl Nisga’a (still figuring out unicode, but there is underline 'k' and 'g'. Historically obviously the tribal council. No more bands in the old 'Indian Affairs' definition there anymore, so just the villages to add on my part. The history of the land question and plight should make for some good reading here, too.--Keefer4 20:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
