Talk:Tea (meal)
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This page has become difficult to follow. In my view it would make more sense to rename it as Tea (meal) and treat High tea as a variant of that more general concept. Comments, anyone, before I charge ahead and do that? seglea 18:10, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
- Go for it! see comments on Cucumber sandwich-- I'll paste them here
- As for the High tea article it is a bit of a mess, as you say. It tries to include too many different concepts. But I shudder in the face of trying to change it. Quite apart from the regional differences there are the class nuances! Perhaps we need a 'List of mealtimes, as ordered by social class' page cross referenced with a 'List of mealtimes as ordered by region (UK)'! I think I might leave that to someone else. Monk Bretton 18:29, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
- Good luck. Monk Bretton 18:35, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Page moved
I have moved this articel across form High Tea, as suggested above. It seem much more sensible for it to be here.Grinner 13:43, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Calling lunch "dinner"?
I live in Northern Ireland, where dinner (the evening meal) is sometimes called "tea", which I would presume to be a Scottish origin. Some of my Australian friends also name the evening meal "tea" while others use "dinner", and all of us understand "dinner" to be synonymous with "tea". However, none of us name the midday meal "dinner", with the exception that the midday meals provided to children by the school canteen are called "school dinners", although the interval is still known as "lunchtime".
In that case, what part of the world names the midday meal "dinner"? I do not want this article to be misleading. --Jonathan Drain 08:11, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- The midday meal is definately dinner for me (I'm from Newcastle), and this seems to be the case across the rest of northern England. Also some parts of Scotland too (the central-west in particular), but not across the whole country. Grinner 10:07, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)
Midday meal is dinner for me too hence school dinners. For me it is post waking up- breakfast, noonish- dinner, 6pmish- tea and then sometime just before bed -supper. This bunch of articles is very confusing for what is what.--Josquius 11:23, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
It may be difficult to get it right, since basically different people call each meal something different! I'm from Scotland, and I say breakfast, lunch, and tea. I get the impression that calling the midday meal 'dinner' is a northern English thing. Ben davison 11:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- For me, growing up on a farm in Wales in the 60s (and hence with both parents to hand all day), the schedule was: breakfast (8 a.m.-ish), dinner (noonish), tea (3 p.m.), supper (6 p.m.), and a cuppa and a biscuit before bed about 9.30 p.m. ... and we wonder why we're overweight! -- Arwel (talk) 23:47, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- To add to the confusion, speaking as an 18-year-old Glaswegian Scot, meals are Breakfast, lunch and dinner, which is how most people my age that I know have them. --Reveilled 19:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- Breakfast, dinner, tea, to me in Devon. --86.144.60.11 12:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Since it seems that the names of the various meals varies hugely within the UK, I've added a statement to that effect in the article. --Reveilled 05:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] On confusion
Just reading this afresh, it seems to me that the confusion is largely caused by the headings. While there's nothing wrong with them, strictly speaking, the article actually does not follow the by-country headings, instead it is written by type of meal.
I think just re-arranging the subheading is going to make a world of difference.
Quill 21:54, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Duchess of Bedfordshire
The story of Tea originating with the Duchess of Bedfordshire smacks on the surface of urban legend status. It might not be, but it sounds very much like an anectdotal "this is how this began" story with no real veracity. Does anyone have a source for this? 63.167.38.67 21:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Duchess of Bedfordshire This is insane!!
Of course it's an urban legend, it had nothing to do with the 'Duchess of Bedfordshire'. It's stupid urban legend spread by stupid sites like "sallys-place.com"!!
It first first taken noticed by Vasco da Gama when he discovered the maritime path to India and then sold by the Dutch in Europe. It was THEN made popular in the UK by the Portuguese 'Queen Catherine of Braganza, queen-consort of Charles II of England' in 1662, way before the Duchess(http://collectibles.about.com/od/teapots/ss/teatime_2.htm and in http://www.tea.co.uk/index.php?pgId=98!!)
This is proposterous. I'll change when I find the time. No wonder Wikipedia isn't allowed to be quoted in university papers...
[edit] Rose, champagne "customary" with Afternoon Tea??
On what planet?! No wonder academics just can't take Wikipedia seriously. The additions by an anon. editor speak to a tea party. Afternoon tea is by definition informal, with no set or rigid structure. Can't stop to edit now, but I will, I assure you, unless somebody beats me to it....Quill 00:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
