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[edit] Accepted
I could cleary hear the wilhelm scream in accepted, and i think it should be mentioned. --Dallin Tanjo22 10:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] why
why "Wilhelm"? --Menchi 08:41, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The article describes the origin of the name. -- Anon.
So is this in the public domain, or what? -Litefantastic 15:04, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I don't think so, I would imagine it is copyright of the film company.
[edit] "used naturally"
What does it mean for the scream to be "used naturally", e.g. film sound cognoscenti are particularly impressed when it is used naturally ? --Yath 03:02, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
--- Totally excellent entry! --Wetman 02:44, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- The whole quote goes "but film sound cognoscenti are particularly impressed when it is used naturally in films such as A Star Is Born (with Judy Garland) and A Goofy Movie" (at least now, when I'm writing this), which I'd guess is due to the fact that the sound carries an overt aura of despair and fear, it is considered a nice feat when being used in light comedies without sounding forced. Quentin Tarantino had a weird joke in his Reservoir Dogs movie, where one of the main characters happened to push another guy while running away from a failed attempt of bank robbery. It sounded very explicit and out of place and, although deliberate, I guess that is the opposite of used naturally. 85.226.122.222 18:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Okay...
I didn't hear a tarzan yell "during in" Star Wars: Episode III. --A.J. 03:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
It's heard during the battle above Coruscant. One of the cannons in the Republic battle ships explodes and you hear a clone trooper emit the Wilhelm Scream.
Dragons light the tarzan yell is in the battle of the wookie planet when a wookie swings onto a droid tank like thing Viperix 00:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1951?
I might be wrong but did it not appear a LOT in the original, 1933 version of King Kong?
[edit] Alligators?
From this article: "In a tribute to its origins, the clip was used in the film Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom when the villain Mola Ram was, in fact, eaten by alligators."
From Crocodile: "The larger species of crocodiles can be very dangerous to humans. The Saltwater and Nile Crocodiles are the most dangerous, killing hundreds of people each year in parts of South-East Asia and Africa. American Alligators, and possibly the endangered Black Caiman, are also dangerous to humans."
Since the Indiana Jones movie is set to India, it's very unlikely that Mola Ram were eaten by alligators, since the dangerous aligators eat people in America. Jraregris 08:16, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- Is this an article about Indiana Jones movie errors? 66.109.99.18 23:18, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sound link addition
I've found this link to a download of a .wav file of the wilhelm scream: [1] Would wikipedia get in any copyright trouble merely for linking to it? I'm aware there's already a link to a site hosting the scream but it's in Real Audio format, which isn't as commonly used/available as a wave file. We should link to a format the majority of wikipedia readers will be able to access. I'll replace the RealAudio link with the .wav link in a few days if no one objects. -Kasreyn 00:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] appearance in Doom
no object makes this sound in Doom, and the sound effect of dying monsters is the same, no matter where and how they die. But I recall there's a sound effect similar to the Wilhelm scream, if not indeed the same, in Wolfenstein 3D .. I think the soldiers in the white uniform make this sound. Please change this! Because I'm not going to bother to learn how to. 19:30, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. I'm a huge Doom fan and I've never heard this in the game before or any references to it. I can't remember this in Wolfenstein 3D either, but I don't have it and it has been a long time since I last played it. I've removed it. - Drahcir 00:41, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- Definitely. I used to edit DOOM Pwad files for fun after school. I've listened to every sound file in the game, and the Wilhelm scream is not among them. -Kasreyn 06:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- I believe the game you're thinking of is Star Wars: Dark Forces, a "Doom clone" produced by LucasArts. IIRC, the sound is used when the player falls a great distance to their death. Travisseitler 01:52, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
I think this is used a couple of times in 'Last Crusade' in the big gunfight on the hillside.80.177.10.188 16:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Is this really the Wilhelm Scream?
I just tried the link to the sound and was distinctly underwhelmed. Is this really the Wilhelm Scream? I'd always thought it was a much more impressive, drawn out, falling off a huge cliff kind of "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagghhghghghgghgh" or something. This clip we've got sound like someone hitting their toe. I'll pursue this. Elchoco 22:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
OK, Just checked. Seems i was wrong. Sad though. Such a long article on such a weedy sound.Elchoco 23:03, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe you mean the scream you can also hear when clicking on the barracks in Starcraft? --Abdull 14:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
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- You're mistaken. There is no scream sound for selecting the barracks. The scream sound is when you select the Academy. Kasreyn 00:00, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
I also mistakenly thought this sound was the Wilhelm scream for many years. Although it is not as popular a sound effect, its length makes it stand out more (and subsequently makes it harder to sneak past an editor or director). I have yet to discover a name for this faux-Wilhelm scream (or find an example to link), but a for an example you can see the film Serial Mom and the man with a shish-ka-bob who discovers a body in the bathroom.
The similar sound is given off from a Fast Zombie in Half Life 2 if that helps people at all. TCL 15:56, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Are you talking about this? I haven't figured out what its official name is. --Quess 05:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Moonraker etc
This question is kind of related to the above (Elchoco might have been thinking of the same scream I am...). There's a scream used at the beginning of Moonraker - when Bond steals a goon's parachute in mid-air and said goon then falls to his death - which I've heard in a lot of other movies. Does that one have a story too? Cardinal Wurzel 22:54, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] On anime
Which anime should have had Wilhelm screams? --Ryanasaurus0077 15:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- Is this an article abotu what should have been? 66.109.99.18 23:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- I know a couple of anime with Wilhelm screams. Macross (episode: Blind Game) is a perfect example of how a company borrows the Wilhelm scream so they could insert it into a dub. --Ryanasaurus0077 19:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Request clip
Could Wikipedia get a sound clip of this? Iamvered 02:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- We don't need one. The first link under "External Links" is a direct link to a .wav file of the sound effect. Already taken care of. Kasreyn 02:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
The .wav file does not consist solely of a voice, but includes a thumping sound. Is that actually part of the sound effect, or is this a mix reflecting one particular usage? Richard K. Carson 05:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- The sound effect is just the scream. The thumping is something else from the media which this particular instance of the scream is from, and is not audible when the scream is used elsewhere. Rob T Firefly 05:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lists and lists
It is nice to have a list that tells us where in each movie the sound-effect is in use, but why have both a list of the location and then a separate list of what movies that uses it?
These really should be combined. 203.144.160.242 13:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC) Zarkow
- I agree, the double listing clutters up the main page, and is not as complete or well organized as the List of Media page. On top of that, I find myself removing the same errors. --Androktasie 17:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Command and conquer
This "scream" is not used in any of the Command and Conquer series, though similar sounding screams are heard that appear in other media (such as the original Unreal game)
[edit] Merge? List of media using the Wilhelm scream
What is the point of the list of uses on this page when a page already exists that provides a much more thorough list here? Why don't we just delete the list on this page and provide a link to the other page? Kakashi-sensei 22:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, The page above which is linked to in this article has a more complete list of films and other media with the scream. The list on this page should be taken off and just leave the link in place. Anyone have a problem with that? Viperix 00:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Difference
Hardly can find a difference from any scream and this kind of scream. May be a more continous "aaa" but not much for do any difference. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.112.11.95 (talk • contribs).
- Really? I think its pretty distinctive. I remember hearing it when I was a kid (in the Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies) and being mildly confused as to why Stormtroopers sounded the same as Nazis. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Female "Wilhelm"?
There's a female scream that's been used in a ton of films and tv shows, but I can't seem to find anything about that scream. It's a high-pitched scream that kinda goes "AAAAHH..AH" (a normal length scream followed by a short scream). The Grinch (with Jim Carrey) was on ABC tonight and I heard the female scream I'm talking about in that. I've also heard it in the movie "Hackers", when they do a quick cut to a clip from a black-and-white movie of a woman being strangled. I've heard it a million other times as well. Does anyone have any info on the female scream? meateebon 04:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- No clue, never heard it. I don't have either of those movies on DVD, so I can't easily check on it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I know exactly what you mean. It is definitely a female voice It goes "AAAAAAAA AAh AAh," and during the first grouping the tone drops three times, and then remains the same for the following two short-screams. If you ever see a cheapo gadget that uses a scream sound (think hallowen) I bet you that's it. I have also heard it on more than one occasion in tv, commercials, and even a movie or two.
You can hear the first scream without the two trailing sounds in The Last King of Scotland during the fight in the hospital (just before the line "this is a hospital, you get your men out now")
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- I clicked on this article thinking it was the female version as well. If anyone has any info on that, I'd like to read about where it came from, which project it originally appeared in, etc. Alanlastufka 17:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
I too am curious about that scream, I hear it in so many movies, and it's very distinctive. I hope someone can find it. Eldaran 01:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] WHAT IS THE WILHELM SCREAM?
I am sorry to say this, but this is one of the worst articles I have ever seen! If People look for "Wilhelm Scream" in Wikipedia, the FIRST THING they want to know is, WHAT the Wilhelm Scream is! This is Horrible, I mean it reports about history, revival usage lists, and after 1:30 reading the article one finds out that the only information given for what the Wilhelm Scream actually IS, is a link to an audio file, which one has to download or else install a feature. THIS IS NOT WHAT WIKIPEDIA IS FOR! I still do not know what a wilhelm scream is, i only know what one of them might sound like. Add a clear description WHAT IT IS to this article, immediately! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.168.188.121 (talk) 21:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
