Talk:Father Callahan

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[edit] Cleanup

I'm cleaning up The Dark Tower Characters and am thinning the Father Callahan section considerably, since there is a main article on him. For legacy, or pasting into this article, here is the original text:

Callahan is the "damned" priest who appeared in the novel Salem's Lot. He makes his first appearance in the Dark Tower series in Wolves of the Calla, although his character's reappearance was hinted at in the afterword to Wizard and Glass. After being infected by the vampire Barlow, Father Callahan spends time in a homeless shelter that he later runs. A male partner in running the shelter, who is also the object of Callahan's love (it is too much to say that his is a Gay priest, only that he was in love with this man. It is stated many times that the Father still has an eye for the ladies, and shows no other interest in any other men (save the Man Jesus)), is given AIDS by a vampire. Callahan made it a goal to get even with the vampires for what they did to his partner. He is aided in this due to his ability to spot the vampires; since Jerusalem's Lot (and the forced taking of some of the vampire Barlow's blood) he has been able to tell who is a vampire. He enters Mid-World after jumping from a window escaping the agents of the Red King, then arrives at the Way Station from the The Gunslinger (right after Jake & Roland left), although this is not revealed until Wolves of the Calla. He assists the ka-tet (becoming a partial member) in the Battle against the Wolves, helps Susannah's rescue mission from 1999 New York, sacrificing himself so that Jake may live making his final stand in The Dark Tower VII against the can-toi (low men) and vampires: Thus he is redeemed from his fall in ’Salem’s Lot. Callahan kills himself before allowing himself to fall at the hands of the vampires in the Dixie Pig.

— RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 00:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Black Thirteen's fate and 9/11

Stating that Black Thirteen was destroyed during 9/11 is speculation. We do not know for sure. As we do not see it after that.

Stating that it might be related to 9/11 is speculation as well, not objective.

We don't see it after it is put in the locker, END of story.

--Antelope In Search Of Truth 03:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Give me a break. There's a line saying "Unless the building falls on top of it" "That'd be a way to destroy the nasty thing." I mean, King pretty much beat us over the head with it.--CyberGhostface 14:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Do we see it happen? Of course a building falling on it would likely destroy it, but we have to acknowledge that we don't see it happen.

I'm with you: building = crushed Black 13. But if we didn't SEE it, all we can say is something to the effect of, "it was likely destroyed during 9/11.

But all this is *beside* the point: the events of 9/11 fall outside the scope of events in the books. Of course, that line you mentioned would be a good thing to mention maybe, if we're going to bother referring this. It just comes a little too close to speculation to say anything definitive so as long as we don't do that......

And until there is composition regarding it's potential impact on 9/11, this is not the place to speculate.

--Antelope In Search Of Truth 20:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Well I guess the current revision is okay. Sorry for arguing.--CyberGhostface 21:23, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh no no..... no need for apology about arguing, though I do appreciate the sentiment. The whole point is that we are all trying to work toward an objective, concise, complete account of any given subject in an article.

Discussions like these ensure that we are standing up for the quality of these articles..... so thank you!

--Antelope In Search Of Truth 21:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Minor Change.

For a more exact definition of the "ruined children" I changed the sentences from:

"Roont" (ruined) children are sterile, grow to be larger and stronger than other children, and die painfully at a younger age.

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"Roont" (ruined) children are sterile, mentally handicapped, grow to be larger and stronger than other children, and die painfully at a younger age. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hardwing (talk • contribs).

Maybe we should have a link to Down syndrome which is what I always thought of when I was reading it... — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 03:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thats speculation. In no way is being roont down syndrome.--CyberGhostface 04:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I didn't say it was. I meant that the outward appearances seemed very close. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 12:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)