Talk:Fucking, Austria
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[edit] Budget
From the article: Most of Fucking's budget is spent on replacing the stolen signs. - Isn't that an exaggeration? Town budgets are not that low nowadays, there is a lot to be paid from them. Andre Engels 12:55, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- I checked on the internet, and it seems to be an exaggeration indeed. It seems to come from a statement by the village's mayor that much (rather than most) of the village's budget is spent on this. They also give more precise numbers: The signs are stolen on a rate of slightly more than one sign a month, and they cost "several hundred dollars" apiece. Andre Engels 13:03, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- The actual flaw in the story is that Fucking is just a village, which belongs to the municipality of Tarsdorf. It doesn't have its own mayor, administration or budget. Martg76 15:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bitte - nicht so schnell
The sign in the picture is particularly funny in combination with the children saying "Bitte - nicht so schnell". Do I have a dirty mind because of the mental picture it gives me? =) — JIP | Talk 10:08, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
What happened to the "Bitte - nict so schnell" sign? Is the combination of "Please, not so fast!" with "Fucking" even too much for Austrians? Rlquall 00:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- What do you mean with "even too much for Austrians"? ;p —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 12:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
"...(or possibly as more obscene as it is almost never used figuratively), is ficken."
I don't see the link between figurative use & degree of obscenity. Any thoughts?
- I think the difference is what the obscene word is intended to mean. Foe example: "Your sister is so ugly I wouldn't fuck her if she paid me for it" is literal obscenity but "Don't fuck with me, boy, I'm an expert" is figurative obscenity. — JIP | Talk 21:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Just an observation:
If the metal traffic sign keeps getting stolen, why not replace it with masonry or concrete? Bobak 00:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
this is not allowed by law in austria -193.171.251.179 11:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Just a thought
r the inhabitants of this place called fuckers
- [place witty retort here] -- Bobak 19:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Another town nearby
Looking at a map of the region, there is also a nearby town called "Tittmoning". Perhaps that should be mentioned in the article too. --Salsa man 20:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
- Why...? PureLegend 19:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
There's also a town named "Windpassing" in Austria. I heard there's a place called "Wank am see", "Petting". "Vomitville", etc. in Austria too.
- I'm willing to believe the first three, but I'm not buying "Vomitville." Freshacconci 22:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What do you call citizens of this town?
Fucking Australians. The Wookieepedian 06:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- Correction: Fucking Austrians. --Howard the Duck 14:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- The citiziens are called "Fuckinger" (pronouncation of the "u" like the "u" in "put"). --84.73.21.242 18:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- * I would prefer the term 'Fuckers'! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.70.235.8 (talk) 21:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Sign photo
Y'know, if someone could get a high res photo of the town sign, I can all but guarantee it would probably be a shoo-in for featured picture. Badbilltucker 22:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV complaint
The focus of this article on the humorous associations of the name for English-speakers is an appalling example of abusing one culture by viewing it through the perspective of another. Some of the overtly racist remarks above show that an extremely problematic attitude lies behind this. If it is true (and can be verified) that loutish behaviour by visiting English-speakers have proved a problem for the people of this village, then I suppose that needs to be mentioned as a footnote somewhere, but at present the reader has the impression that the most important thing about this place is the amusement its name causes when viewed through English eyes, and that is entirely unacceptable. --Doric Loon 10:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, I have now changed this, and I would ask you please not to revert it. Against my better judgment, I've left the references, which will allow easy access to the tabloid treatment of this, and I've left the cross-reference to "fuck" in case anyone doesn't understand the potential for punning. That's already more than is justified in an article on the village. If you really want to write this stuff up in full and sordid detail, I suggest you start a page on racist humour, and add a cross-reference from here to there. --Doric Loon 10:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Relax, dude. I understand where you are coming from, we do have to watch out for our biases, and I think most of your edit is fine. However, you have to remember that a lot of attention has been focused on this place because of the associations of its name for English speakers. I think it's safe to say that a large proportion of people who are familiar with the village are so only because of the "funny name". It may be infantile humour, but Wikipedia cannot simply ignore it or minimise it. — Matt Crypto 10:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, Matt, I've nothing against infantile humour (can be pretty earthy myself when I'm in the mood) but it's a different matter altogether when the humour is at another culture's expense. Of course I agree with you that if there's an issue out there in the world, Wiki has to report it, which is why I didn't remove all trace of the issue. But it should be handled carefully: the remarks about "fucking Austrians" further up this page make it clear that some people working here are enjoying this for the wrong reasons. IF we mention that some people find the name amusing, we need also to mention that others see in this amusement serious issues of inter-cultural respect. And it should be kept brief: at most it should be a footnote to an article on the place, and the main body of the article should have the usual data (history, maps, coats of arms, population statistics, administration, whatever) which other articles on central European places have, to show we are serious about reporting the place first and foremost as the community it is. --Doric Loon 11:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'll have to disagree. We report on human knowledge, and we have to weight our report based on what place the topic has in human knowledge. Are there lots of people in the world protesting about inter-cultural respect with regards to Fucking, Austria? Maybe there should be, but I don't think there are, so we cannot include it. We can agree that Fucking is famous outside of its locality solely because of its name. A good article will reflect that, and we cannot make it just a footnote. You may think that Anglocentric and disrespectful of other people's cultures, but I see that as an inescapable property of the knowledge we're documenting, and not Wikipedia's responsibility. — Matt Crypto 11:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Well yes, there ARE people apart from me who find this disrespectful and offensive - the articles cited at the bottom of the page indicate pretty well that the local population don't like this. You won't find equal numbers if you pit the population of Fucking against the population of the English-speaking world, but that is not the point when we are talking about balance. As for your idea that the flippant way this is dealt with in the article is an "inescapable property of the knowledge", that is clearly nonsense, since I would deal with it differently and can therefore escape! (And I never suggested we don't mention the issue, remember!) My problem is with the sensationalist approach, and that is a property of the reporting, and absolutely Wikipedia's responsibility. --Doric Loon 13:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's not "clearly nonsense" if the way you would deal with it is incorrect. — Matt Crypto 13:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The word "FUCK" has entered the European vocabulary universally. It crosses all borders and is accepted as a curse as it's intended in English.
The word "FUCK" is part of the European vocabulary and probably just about everywhere in the world and is understood as a curse just as it's intended in English. The spread of the use of the word is probably due to it's copious use in American films which are distributed all over the world. The smartest thing the residents of Fucking, Austria cold do is to capatilze on the name and sell all manner of goods (including signs)with their official name on them. If they can't accept the change of the common vocabulary with good nature (and become famous n their own rite), their only alternative is to change their name. 1Z JEEPN 16:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hell yeah! They should cash in on it! I can see it now... postcards and t-shirts reading "Greetings from Fucking Austria!" --Candy-Panda 04:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
