Image talk:Gov Jim Doyle.jpg
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MY MESSAGE:
Dear Sir or Madam: I was wondering if you could provide me with or direct me to a photo of the governor for use on the Wikipedia project. Wikipedia is a non-profit encyclopedia created by volunteers. Having an image of the governor would make his article more complete. The image will need to be released into the public domain so that there will be no debate over its use. I hope you can assist me. Thank you.
NOTICE THAT I TOLD THEM I NEED PUBLIC DOMAIN AND THEY STILL RESPONDED WITH A PIC
From: West, Rich - Office of Governor Jim Doyle Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 9:01 AM To: Vigue, Carla - Office of Governor Jim Doyle; Canter, Matthew - Office of Governor Jim Doyle Cc: Goebel, Deanna - DOA Subject: RE: Governor's Photo - Wisconsin Portal Feedback - 9270135760-844154 Here it is. [image attached] The press shop would be the best bet for this. Do you guys have a photo of JED for Wikipedia? Thanks. Rich West, Director of Constituent Services Office of Governor Jim Doyle 115 East, State Capitol Madison, WI 53702 (608) 267-8912 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Goebel, Deanna - DOA Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:11 PM To: West, Rich - Office of Governor Jim Doyle Subject: FW: Governor's Photo - Wisconsin Portal Feedback - 9270135760-844154 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Madsen, Eric - DOA [email address removed] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:51 PM To: Goebel, Deanna - DOA Subject: FW: Governor's Photo - Wisconsin Portal Feedback - 9270135760-844154 Is there a photo of the Gov we can send to this individual? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otteson, M. Jeanne DPI-RLL [email address removed] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:08 AM To: DOA DL CPP Subject: FW: Governor's Photo - Wisconsin Portal Feedback - 9270135760-844154 Hi CyberDudes, Would you be able to assist this individual? The individual's email address is: [email address removed] Thanks! Have a great day! Jeannie M. Jeanne Otteson, Reference Librarian Wisconsin Reference and Loan Library / Wisconsin.gov State Portal Feedback Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction 2109 South Stoughton Road Madison, WI 53716
IF THAT'S NOT PROOF THAT THE GOV'S OFFICE GAVE ME PERMISSION TO USE THIS, THEN I GIVE UP.
- Prove that really happened? -Amarkov blahedits 21:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- WP:AGF. Failing evidence to the contrary, we should accept the user's word that this email exchange is accurate. I'm not sure that it is sufficient, though. They need to say the magic words, "we release this image into the public domain" somewhere along the line. Through four levels of email, there's no guarantee that the lackey who actually provided the image knows what public domain is or that the image needed to be PD. BigDT 06:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Um... no we shouldn't. That's an absurd over-extention. In situations which involve the possibility of being illegal, we should always err on the side of caution, not the side of assuming that someone is not lying. -Amarkov blahedits 06:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Why? I've uploaded 20 or so photos tagged with PD-self, GFDL-self, or one of the CC licenses. (I go back and forth on what I like to use.) Do you assume good faith on those or do you assume that I am lying? I probably stole a camera from a Tech fan so that I could post his pictures on Wikipdia. An established user said that he had this conversation ... that's good enough for me. I don't think that the conversation demonstrates that the image is acceptable (they need to say the magic words), but to assume he made it up is silly. BigDT 06:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Um... no we shouldn't. That's an absurd over-extention. In situations which involve the possibility of being illegal, we should always err on the side of caution, not the side of assuming that someone is not lying. -Amarkov blahedits 06:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- WP:AGF. Failing evidence to the contrary, we should accept the user's word that this email exchange is accurate. I'm not sure that it is sufficient, though. They need to say the magic words, "we release this image into the public domain" somewhere along the line. Through four levels of email, there's no guarantee that the lackey who actually provided the image knows what public domain is or that the image needed to be PD. BigDT 06:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
