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Hi, my name is Adam and I'm from British Habonim Dror. Anybody there?

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[edit] Former Habos

Look, no more former habos added until someone can cite a source. Otherwise we're just going to get all kinds of rumored former habos and no one will be able to tell who's real and who's fake. Golda Meir and Sascha Baron Cohen are common knowledge, but Matt Drudge? I don't believe that at all. Redzuny 16:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-up

The page is in the most desperate need of a clean-up. I am knowlegeable in Habonim Dror North America, but I don't want to dominate the entire thing with HDNA and would love to see other countries...

[edit] Advertisement

Lets not put in advertisements and phone numbers, wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a glorified flyer. Perhaps add an external link at the bottom of the page?

[edit] Advertisment

Well, we're a youth movement, not a historical entry in an encyclopedia! I'll relent on the phone number, but external links I think should be there.

[edit] Machanot

I go to Moshava outside of Maryland. I know that HDNA runs 8 summer camps throughout the US and Canada, and I think they are an important part of the youth movement. Perhaps another section dealing with the machanot, or another article completely? --Simon 01:27, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Split up this page

this page will work a lot better if each country had their own wikipedia article where they could talk about their ideology and other specific features. This page should only talk about what we have in common, such as hagshama and kibbutz etc. and should also talk about the history of habo and the merger etc.

Someone else do it. I don't really know how -- from 60.225.9.28 (talk contribs)

Nonsense. You say we, implying that this is Habonim's ad to the world. That's not the case. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and thus--while Habonim Dror is a significant organisation in the world, having affected at least a few thousand lives--the individual world organisations cannot surely deserve their own articles. Not even an organisation like the World Trade Center gives pages for each of its branches; other organisations, for example the Australian Stock Exchange have much less detail than Habonim... why should Habonim feature so prominently on Wikipedia?
In my opinion, the material here is just unnecessary overload. It is written for a Jewish/Zionist/Habonim audience, rather than the general encyclopaedia-browsing population, and is written wholly from Habonim's perspectives. I think that it would be most worthwhile to cut the page down to a few paragraphs on history, ideology, and modern organisational structure / operation. In each of these, where relevant, notes can be left highlighting some of the international differences, without reprinting entire constitutions. --jnothman talk 08:19, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Semel"

Hi,

What's so special about the Semel, that it must be mentioned in its Hebrew name? "Semel" is just a Hebrew word for emblem. The page for Israel doesn't mention that the Menorah is a "Semel", it simply calls it "Coat of Arms". So is it any more special than the symbol if Israeli Boy Scouts or Bney-Akiva?--Amir E. Aharoni 07:26, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Not at all... I think the reason it's in there is that members of Habonim, although speaking languages other than Hebrew refer to the semel as a semel and not an emblem... I'm pretty apathetic as to whether it stays semel or just emblem. jnothman talk 08:33, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

what about something to do with Miller 18 and Dror since Dror redirects here?

[edit] South Africa Membership

To help resolve a petty edit war on the Bnei Akiva page, it would be helpful if someone could post a reliable figure for the number of members Habonim Dror has in South Africa.

Thanks, --Dweller 08:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Dweller, please assume good faith. It was not an edit war; just a couple of reverts by an inexperienced editor. Anyway, how about calling both of the "one of the largest" and leaving it at that? I don't think anyone would disagree. Ayinyud 12:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

OK. Will do. --Dweller 12:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


Hello everyone, i´m a madrij in Habonim Dror Agerntina, and all i have to say is that the writter forgot that Habonim Dror EXISTS in Argentina (we have 300-400 members in the country) as well in Uruguay.

                                               Ale ve Hagshem--Alanch90 19:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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