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Mani1 claims that most people of the city speak Persian. I have removed it, unless we can be pointed to a source of the claim. This is rather important since we wan't to make sure we don't sacrifice accuracy in favor of one kind of nationalism or another. roozbeh 13:05, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] HAMEDAN NOT HAMADAN
hamedan in correct and hamadan is incorrect
all people of hamedan city speak persian
but in the north part of province their languages is -torki- and in the south of hamedan province their language is -lori-
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- Whoever wrote "Hamedan" is correct not "Hamadan". You need to educate yourself a little better about this subject. "Hamedan" is Turkish corruption of "Hamadan", in the same way that "Azer" is Turkish corruption of "Azar". But the name "Hamadan" is directly from "Hagmatana" and that is from Old Persian, and there is no confusions or doubts about this fact in scholarship.
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- I also removed the claim that the tomb of "Esther and Mordechai" is in Hamadan, for obvious reasons. First and foremost, Eshter and Mordechai do not exist in any authentic historical documents other than religious texts of the Jews. Even many Jewish scholars accept that the story is probably a didactic one and not an actual historical event. There has been extensive academic debate on this subject and there is no evidence to prove the historical authenticity of the story of Esther. Secondly, even if the story of Esther was true, on what basis is it claimed that their tombs are in the city of Hamadan ?!!
[edit] Origin of the word "Hamadan"
Hamadan prior to the arab conquest of Persia was called Ecbatana. After the Arab conquest, many arabs tribes imigritaed to persia. One of these tribes were the famous yemeni arab tribe of Hamadan(همدان ) or Hamdan, who settled in great numbers in this city. The city got its name from the name of this Arab tribe[1].
Its beeing continuesly deleted by one user. Can someone please explain why this is wrong and at the same time explain where the word "Hamadan"(همدان) comes from? Jidan 15:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Your "source" is an Islamic gourp's website [2], an unreliable online source. --ManiF 15:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Hamdan is one of the most famous arab tribes. I will not bother myself furhter. Its anyway not my city or country. Jidan 15:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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- BTW: A famous scholar from that arab tribe is Abu Muhammad Hamdani. Jidan 16:40, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
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- hamadan is corruption of old persian haga-mataan. IT is not
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related to the tribe Hamdan. EVen the H and h are different.
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- I will repeat again; they are both spelled(همدان) and pronounced the same. After the arab conquest, many iranian cities including Hamadan was heavily immagrited by arab tribes. Hamadan was settled by the arab tribe Hamadan. This would expalin why the name of the city suddenly changed from ecbatana to Hamadan directly after the arab conquest. There is also a region in yemen named Hamadan(همدان) after the name of this tribe. Jidan 07:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Again the Old Persian was not Ecbatan but it was Hagamatan.
- I will repeat again; they are both spelled(همدان) and pronounced the same. After the arab conquest, many iranian cities including Hamadan was heavily immagrited by arab tribes. Hamadan was settled by the arab tribe Hamadan. This would expalin why the name of the city suddenly changed from ecbatana to Hamadan directly after the arab conquest. There is also a region in yemen named Hamadan(همدان) after the name of this tribe. Jidan 07:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
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