Talk:Hamilton, Ontario/Infobox

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Hamilton Flag

We use to have the Hamilton Flag posted right beside the Coat of Arms for Hamilton. The image (for whatever reason) was removed from wikipedia database and needs to be uploaded again. Below is the link to the page on wikipedia where you can upload the image to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hamiltonflag.PNG

...and Below is link to a site that has images of the Hamilton flag:

http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ca-on-ha.html

I was trying to see if I could do it myself but was having some problems. I'm not so savy with the PC like alot of you are. If someone can please help in this department would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks~ Nhl4hamilton

This image appears to have been deleted due to copyright issues on September 10. The site that you mention above has a copyright notice on the main page. There is a discussion of the Flags of the World site's copyright policy at [1]. That policy may not be compatible with use on Wikipedia. If so, then it may be necessary to find another source for this image. --Big_iron 23:17, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

OK Thanks Big_iron...I'll see if I can find a Hamilton flag from another site. Nhl4hamilton

Box template

I'd like to replace the existing infobox with a standard, maintained template, I have completed most of it. Please comment. Alan.ca 05:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I like the one we are currently using. It was even better when we had the Flag of Hamilton along side the coat of arms but it was removed due to copyright(s). I am having tough time finding another Hamlton flag online that doesn't have a copyright.Nhl4hamilton 20:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know that the current section is all that different from what I'm proposing. The main concern is to move towards a standard template for cities to make them easier to read and maintain. It would stand to reason that what works for other similiar cities like Toronto would work for Hamilton. I am also working on acquiring a permitted flag image.Alan.ca 20:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

For the urban area population, the figure normally used is the population of the contiguous urban area that includes the city core, i.e. the urban core of the metropolitan area. This is somewhat different from the population within the administrative limits that is classified as urban. See Toronto for an example. --Polaron | Talk 22:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not certain what you're writing about. I looked at the Toronto article, it has no urban area listed and the population figure citation does not contain the information stated. This has been a contentious issue. Please clarify if your issue is with the current figures or maybe you were reading a previous revision of the infobox? Alan.ca 23:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The urban area population figure is right under the population density line. Note that it refers to the "Urban area of Toronto" not to the portion of the population of the City of Toronto that is classified as urban. I have corrected the figure in the infobox below per the linked reference to the more common notion of the urban extent of a city. --Polaron | Talk 23:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Where do we get the Urban Area figure that is associated with that population figure? Alan.ca 00:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

The appropriate Table for Hamilton is in the commented out html in the infobox. The main Statcan page for urban area populations is here.

I followed the URL you included, but I am unable to find the section that displays the area in km(squared) which is associated with the Urban population figure.Alan.ca 02:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I though you meant population. It seems that this information is in one of the data sets that are not freely available. My guess is that it would be in this data set. A website (demographia.com) lists the Hamilton urban area size as 362.40 sq. km[2] but I don't know if that qualifies as a reliable source. --Polaron | Talk 03:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Old Format Left, new format right. Alan.ca 00:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

OK I see the difference better now with the two versions standing side-by-side. I still would like to add the flag of Hamilton in the new info box, right beside the coat of arms. Still can't believe there's no current Hamilton flags online without any copyrights attached to them. Nhl4hamilton 02:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to Earl Andrew for the addition of the Hamilton flag to our Infobox. Nhl4hamilton 08:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

City of Hamilton