Talk:Handjob

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This article was nominated for deletion on January 2, 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

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Footjob is a redirect to Foot fetishism. That has nothing to do with this article, and represents a textbook case of instruction creep. Do NOT revert without first consulting me on my talk page. If you do, i will consider it a personal attack. THE KING 13:14, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Article needs pics 2 Redirect to Masturbation 3 How dare you take away my happy ending! 4 bald headed champ 5 merge with mutual masturbation 5.1 Move to manual genital stimulation 6 possible vandalism of this article?

[edit] Article needs pics

This article is worthless without pictures! --Cyde Weys 18:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect to Masturbation

A handjob is essentially the same thing as masturbation, so shouldn't this article should be a redirect to masturbation? Ibn Abihi 07:50, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

No. If an article on manual stimulation is created, both this article and masturbation can link there. But even that is not terribly accurate. - Kuzain 06:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How dare you take away my happy ending!

You hafta admit, that was creative! Lighten up, this isn't the World Book! Things like that are appropriate for the internet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.194.114.227 (talk • contribs).

[edit] bald headed champ

I'm new at this; but my personal opinion is that ALL slang (hand job, happy ending, boxing the bald headed champ..whatever) should be referenced in a sub-heading called "Synonymous Slang Terms" - and let everyone have at it. Making a page for every slang term for masturbation would make things a little unweildy? Sorry King..I think handjob is just another way of saying...formally...masturbation. Amgraziano 04:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not masturbation because it involves different sensations and more than one person. Ultimately, if you are being manually stimulated by a partner and it feels no different than something you could do yourself you are either having sex with your perfect clone or are rather selfish.

The way I always understood it, masturbation doesn't even have to use the hands, you could be using an artificial vagina or a vibrator or whatever. A handjob (obviously) can only use the hands, and unless I'm mistaken always involves a partner. People might say that masturbation is like giving yourself a handjob, which isn't that same thing as equating the two. --Anaraug 16:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge with mutual masturbation

ah no. Mutual Masturbation is when two people MUTUALLY pleasure each other using masturbation. a handjob is when ONE person masturbates the other, w/o it to be returned simultaneously.. see what i mean? --Deon555 03:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Masturbation means self-stimulation. Oppose this merge. Exploding Boy 06:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

No, masturbation is manual stimulation. It may or may not be self-stimulation. Synergism 02:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Uh, no. It's possible to masturbate without using the hands. Exploding Boy 02:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Manual or other non-penetrative (penile) stimulation of oneself or a partner for sexual pleasure, is the def for masturbation, as you can see it references the word 'ONESELF'. mutual masturbation is entirely different. --Deon555 03:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I would oppose any such merge. Mutual masturbation implies reciprocity, while masturbation is when you, ahem, take matters into your own hands. A handjob, on the other hand, is one person stimulating another person's penis to the point of orgasm with their hands. youngamerican (talk) 13:03, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose merge as well. this is an entirely seperate concept. THE KING 10:27, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move to manual genital stimulation

Handjob is a colloquial term for Manual-Genital Stimulation, the term the vast majority of scholars use for the act (Manual Genital Stimulation - the term un-hyphenated - coming in second, but that is also used interchangeably for masturbation). The yet uncreated article Manual-Genital Stimulation should mention that one of several colloquial terms for the act is "handjob". Therefore, since handjob is a colloquial term for Manual-Genital Stimulation, an article titled Handjob needs to be about the term as a colloquialism. This one is not. We title articles Semen and not Cum; Sexual intercourse and not Fucking; Cunnilingus and not Going down on; Fellatio and not Head job. Why? Because each of the latter terms are colloquialisms and not encyclopedic. The act colloquially referred to as a "handjob" needs to be described in an article Manual-Genital Stimulation. Does that clear things up? CyberAnth 09:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The "vast majority of scholars"? I'm going to need to see some references. I have never heard this term. --Strait 18:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Are you a handjob scholar, then?? − Twas Now 05:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Go to World-Cat and Nexis-Lexis. Type it in. CyberAnth 17:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Clearly merging with mutual masterbation is innapropriate, as a handjob is not mutual in most cases. I found around 266,000 ghits on "manual genital stimulation" and 5,250,000 hits on "handjob". Google scholar gives 4,930 hits for "manual genital stimulation" and 26 hits for "handjob". This would support that the term "handjob" is more frequently used on a day to day or colloquial basis, and than "manual genital stimulation" is used more frequently in an academic context. I'm not making any judgment. Frankly I prefer that it stay at "handjob". But, I could live with a move, and a redirect from handjob to the new article. Atom 21:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose - Bad faith move DXRAW 09:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] possible vandalism of this article?

i cannot speak (what appears to be) spanish, but the first line of this article contains the text:

"LOS ARGENTINOS LA TENEMOS MAS GRANDE, MUCHO MAS GRANDE, LOS INGLESES PUTOS SON TODOS MANIPOCHOS(VERY SMALL PENIS)"

this looks a lot like it says something along the lines of:

"Argentinians have large penises whilst english people have very small penises".

this text is followed by:

"is a term that describes the sexual stimulation of a partner's penis using the hands and fingers"

well, im pretty sure that the spanish-looking phrase above is not a term that describes the sexual stimulation of the partner's penis

i am pretty sure, however that this is vandalism of the article.

i often use wikkipedia as a resource, however i must admit i barely ever contribute to it, and know almost nothing of how to use its editing/moderation controls.

i will not edit the page, but will rather leave it to someone who knows what they are doing :P