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Contents 1 Gay? 2 Vandalism 3 Whatever 4 Image 5 Film career section POV 5.1 Some Research 6 Love Life 7 Razzie 8 Nice Try (Vandalism) 9 VANDALSIM 10 Strabismus? 11 Pardo.. 12 Sienna and Hayden 13 Acting Ability 14 shaw

[edit] Gay?

It's best if his private life is respected and undisturbed regardless of who he's currently dating. The "gay" question can't be answered by none other than Hayden himself. Even if he's with Lola or whoever else right now (and i really don't care about her past), it doesn't prove anything. It doesn't prove he's single, dating, gay, bi, straight. So it's an impossible question to answer. Hayden will always keep it private unless the special someone comes along which didn't happen yet I think. So the "gay" question gets tired because no one can answer it. And no one can prove anything about him, his sexuality, his girlfriend, his private life. So I suggest you just keep it low and enjoy his movies the way they're supposed to be enjoyed!

[edit] Vandalism

I reverted this talk page back to version 22:57, 24 June 2005 due to the constant vandalism. I checked all of the versions, to ensure that no legitimate user talk was erased. If this is unnacceptable, or I missed something, please advise. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 8 July 2005 11:07 (UTC)

[edit] Whatever

Gay or not gay, who cares, bottom line is his acting is terrible.

Until you score a major role in one of the most epic movies of all time, dont say someones acting is terrible, unless u can act yourself

Yeah, it's easy to say things like that, but it doesn't work that way, and I'm sure you know that. --Darth Revert ^{(AKA Deskana)} (talk) 08:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Until you can hand build a car from scratch don't complain about your car not working either. DarthTanner

The car example is bad - if I bought a car I would expect it to work.. And, you can't say "his acting is terrible" on Wikipedia, you could only source rottontomatoes or something which presented that. Or something along those lines. Yoda921 11:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Yoda

[edit] Image

I've put a new image on the page of him from the DVD of Return of the Jedi, since that has been a subject of contraversy. The Wookieepedian 14:18, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Film career section POV

While Christensen's critically praised portrayal of a misunderstood teenager in Life as a House (2001) earned him Golden Globe and SAG Award nominations as well as the National Board of Review's award for Breakthrough Performance of the Year, the performance didn't receive widespread public notice. However, his star-making role in Attack of the Clones (2002) made him an A-list star. Subsequently, he garnered good reviews as journalist Stephen Glass in 2003's Shattered Glass. Finally, he received favorable responses in the last Star Wars prequel Revenge of the Sith (2005), where he played a more mature, insecure Anakin gradually converting to the Dark Side.

This entire section has been tagged with {{POV-section}} because it is unsourced and conveys a very non-neutral POV. What favorable responses did Christensen receive in Revenge of the Sith? Everything I have ever read about his acting in the Star Wars series was less than positive, to put it lightly. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 22:33, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Check out the rotten tomatoes website - http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_3/ - to find out what the film critics had to say about Hayden's performance in Revenge of the Sith. Many - but not all - reviews were favorable.

[edit] Some Research

From Tjss 23:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC):

• From what I've read about Christensen, he recieved generally good reviews for Life as a House, with reviewers likethis one and this one praising him. Even those reviewers that did not like the movie, like this one liked Christensen's performance. It should be noted that many reviewers did not like the movie, even if they liked Christensen. Also, some reviews did not mention Christensen all that much since Kevin Kline played the lead role and they focused on him. We should say Christensen got generally positive reivews for this one. He was also nominated for several awards including a Golden Globe and a Screen Actors Guild Award for his role.
• Reviews were mixed for Episode II in general, with many reviewers not liking the movie and singling out Christensen, calling him wooden or stiff. One example is here. Others liked and disliked specific things, like this one. Some were positive, too. Generally, it would be best to call the reivews 'mixed at best.' One review said he was better in Life as a House.
• Shattered Glass had very good reivews, like this one and this one. Christensen is praised in both.
• Episode III seemed to be viewed as an improvement over #2. The same criticisms were brought forward, just by fewer people. Christensen was criticized (see here) and it was also said that he had improved from Clones (see here). We should say that most critics, while acknowledging an improvement over Clones, gave him mixed reivews.
• Unless someone contests my research, I plan on updating the page in about 24 hours and removing the POV tag. -Tjss 23:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

No contest here. "Mixed reviews" is a much more accurate portrayal of the criticisms that Christensen received for his roles in in Star Wars II and III. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

• this might be tempered by mentioning that Portman was often held up in reviews as worse than Christensen in Ep. III. not sure of the best way to say it, but it definitely reflects a change in critical opinion as compared to Ep. II. it might also be noted that Lucas and McDiarmid have gone on record saying people just didn't like the Anakin character and took it out on Christensen's acting.

[edit] Love Life

Really, people? Do we need to include this section? Does it matter who he's currently involved with? Does every celebrity have a love life section? I won't delete it for now, but who wants to second my motion? - Darkhawk

[edit] Razzie

Well, Christensen won the 2005 Razzie for Worst Supporting Actor, is this worthy enough to put in? -ChewyLSB 02:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nice Try (Vandalism)

Somebody vandalized the filmography by changing a bunch of role names (e.g. according to this user Hayden is playing "Padme Amidala" in Factory Girl). I changed them back to the proper names; I'm just not sure about the earlier projects as to whether the character names were vandalized or not, as I'm not familiar with Hayden's early roles. Somebody who knows the names of the characters he played might want to make sure the names are correct. Also somebody might want to add the Decameron to his filmography. 139.142.225.191 01:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)Heather

That was not vandaism. The template was copied from the Portman page, and the roles were left unchanged. Its fixed now. Cvene64 03:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Well if that's true then oops, never mind...yeah now I understand, I thought somebody was making fun of Christensen by changing all the role names to female ones. 139.142.225.191 03:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Heather

[edit] VANDALSIM

hey i just liked to remark that the biography was destroyed by someone (i'd like to say by someone very stupid), at the moment i have no time to fix it cause i'm writing my final exams within the next few days i just wanted to "alert" someone

Someone fixed it. Cvene64 03:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strabismus?

Hey, I was just curious...does anybody think Hayden might have a medical condition called Strabismus, where the eyes don't point in the same direction? See Strabismus. 139.142.225.191 03:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)Heather

Is he gay ?

I think Hayden Christensen is handsome and pretty .He is not gay as some people think .Well ,why he was choosen to play this role ?And I agree with Jorge Lukas "Hayden is the person who will play this role"

...umm, what's this discussion doing under my strabismus section? 139.142.225.191 03:01, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Heather

   Hahahahahaha....sorry..i dont think he has strabismus tho. i have light strabismus, but the doctor said it is obvious only when i overuse my eyes.

[edit] Pardo..

I reverted this addition again. Firt of all, I have never really herd about it, at least no more than any other male actor. I do not believe that he/his claims are notable, furthermore, I don't think Wikipedia should be used as a vecile for this person to gain notority, or promote his website/book. Cvene64 04:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

First off, It's not Pardo's book, it is an author/actors book named Parys Sylver. He wrote the book Entering the Universal Way. I however do agree with that there should not be a link to his site. But there are MANY including a gay themed magazine named "THe Advocate" that claim Hayden is gay. It is beyond notable. Firegirl223 23:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Reverted again. I searched "Hayen Pardo" into google, and wow, guess what? The first hit was Trevor Blumas' wikipedia page - the text being basically the same as what is written on here. The second hit starts like this "Michael Pardo is an extremely disturbed individual who is obsessed with. convincing...". The third hit has nothing to do with the subject. The fourth hit is from answers.com, which is a mirror of Blumas' wiki page. Hits, 5, 6, 7 and 8 are not related to the subject. The 9th is a message board post about Pardo and the last is a related blog. Also, I don't think a mention in a GAY magazine makes it notable. Its not a mainstream subject, the only thing that is getting this into mainstream media (i.e google) is Wikipedia, because people are trying to give the rumor legs to stand on/publicize the book and what not. Please do not add it back in. Bolding the book and offering a weblink is just promotion. Wikipedia should not act as a base for non-notable rumors and for non-notable people/websites/books to gain notority. Cvene64 04:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree that this Pardo info is unencyclopedic. At least at this time. Mad Jack O'Lantern 05:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Jack O, your second comment raises another issue I would like to add. I have fears that if we keep the info on this page, it will spread over the internet and thus have more notability/google hits and so on. Wikipedia is such a great resource, thats why I think there are potential flaws with templates like {{citationneeded}} and so on, because once the info is on Wiki, it is likely to gain notability throughout the internet (possibly, then, a user can replace the citationneeded with a reference, a reference that may have been inspired by the unsourced wiki info in the first place...not completely relevent to this text, but you know what I mean, I'm not prepared to have such a rumor gain notability through Wikipedia). Cheers. Cvene64 05:23, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. You can't imagine how many complete untrue things I've seen gain notability through either the IMDB, which has been doing this kind of thing for years, or our very own Wiki. That's why we should always use only primary sources - something where the subject of the article was involved in, like an interview/profile. Because, most of the time, these web trivia websites actually take their info from us!:) Which is a good thing, if we're right... Mad Jack O'Lantern 05:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Exactly! And with this, I'm removing the same text from Blumas' page. Cvene64 07:47, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Removed. The promotion of people/books/websites just isnt acceptable. Furthermore, 67.80.19.94 seems to be one of the main culprits, probably others, that keep on adding this stuff in, including numerous links about the universaway or whatever it is. It is done then, no more promotion of this B-grade rumor/website/book, at least not on Wikipedia! Cvene64 07:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed ! Mad Jack O'Lantern 08:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Though may not a big deal in Hayden's life, Trevor's life and career has been changed for it. Trevor and his managment took this man to court, or was going to. So you can remove the link, the info i put on the page was just the fake that rumors have circulated all over about Hayden. Being gay is the main one. I am sorry if you don't like it but that's the way it is. I do not agree with the cutting and pasting of the infomation of the Trevor article. Firegirl223 23:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Works for me like this. Cvene64 23:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sienna and Hayden

Both have said there is no romantic relationship between them. [citation needed] ...That might be because there is no source. I'm 99.9% sure of it. As far as I know neither Hayden nor Sienna ever even talked about any relationship. I cannot find anything like that on the internet. And believe me, I'm pretty sure I'd know if there was an interview with Hayden where he talked about a relationship. No mention of a denial on Desiring Hayden (probably the top Hayden fansite). I check this stuff out daily. I'm not debating whether there was/wasn't a relationship (just for the record I think there was, but that's irrelevant), I'm debating whether either Hayden Christensen or Sienna Miller ever talked about each other. So anyway, until somebody can find a source, verification or denial (other than a celebrity gossip messageboard), I think this statement should be removed in the interest of not spreading false information. ...Also unless I'm much mistaken, Hayden has finished shooting Factory Girl and it's in post-production. Factory Girl Official Website Right now on this wiki Hayden page it says that he's currently in Toronto shooting Factory Girl. Factory Girl was shot in Shreveport Louisiana. There's lots of stuff that needs fixing on this page but I'm not experienced enough to know how to do it. 139.142.225.191 03:27, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Heather

Whoa, where'd it go...lol. If it was removed that was pretty fast. 139.142.225.191 17:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Heather

It still says he's currently shooting Factory Girl. 139.142.225.191 17:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)Heather

Okay I finally removed the 'they are both currently shooting Factory Girl in Toronto' statement. As far as I know it's way off. Factory Girl is in post-production and it was shot in Louisiana. Hayden I believe is in Toronto currently, but not working on any projects (he was allegedly spotted once or twice out and about). As far as Sienna Miller I don't think she's even in Canada. 139.142.225.191 06:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Heather

[edit] Acting Ability

You know, if the the Star Wars movie pages have mentions about how the movies were criticized for wooden acting it should be reflected here. He was terrible with his lines, the guy can only put two emotions into his parts - whinning angry and intensely bored. Sure he may be called the greatest swordsman of an actor by some of the trainers in the industry but I don't think a movie should be criticized when the offender gets off free.

WP:OR. Find a source --Deskana talk 18:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

An actor's abilities cannot be sufficiently judged by only watching 2 (or really, 1) of their performances.

[edit] shaw

It says that Christensen replaced Shaw without his knowledge, thats because HE IS DEAD

Thorboy86