Talk:Igor Sikorsky
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[edit] Career in Russian Empire
Before Sikorsky emigrated to USA he had a distinguished carreer in Russia as a designer of aircraft. He was one of the earliest protagonists of a multimotor aeroplane and the 4-engine 'ILYA MUROMET' was a development of the first Sikorsky giant which was flown in St.Petersburg in 1913. Yet all we hear of today are his helicopters (not that one should underestimate their importance). Although the 4-engine aeroplane was originally designed for civilian transport, it could successfully compete with the German 'GOTHA' during WW1.
Who would be interested in discussion on this subject?
alex newall alexnewall@tiscali.co.uk
The part about the early use of his planes as bombers is unclear, but it was probably not by the Communists. Is this worth clarifying? Shanen 04:07, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Some "IM" bombers were flown by the Red forces, including a few that were completed in the factory after the revolution. I do not know details but will try to remember to ask Sergei Sikorksky next time I see him.
68.2.139.236 02:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)B Tillman May 06
[edit] Sikorsky's ethnicity
He is not Russian. Russian means ethnicity. It should read "a citizen of Russian empire of Polish and Ukrainian descent." Sashazlv 03:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
- Ethnicity is not only defined by lastname origin (or even blood, which is in case of Sikorsky is not clear anyway), it is primarily defined by the individuals' culture and self-identification.
- Igor Sykorsky, spoke Russian language, worshipped/was baptized in Russian Orthodox Church, and even in United States assosiated himself with Russian émigrés rather than with Ukrainian or Polish communities.
- Therefore, Igor Sikorsky is an ethnic Russian. (Fisenko 22:09, 13 May 2005 (UTC))
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- Please take a look at Talk:Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation#Ukrainian born Sikorsky on this issue. --Irpen 02:26, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
- Ethnically, he was not Russian but Ukrainian from what we know. But his pre-emigration career in the Russian empire did not have anything Ukraine-specific. Any encyclopedia considers him a Russian-American engineer, see Talk:Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation#Ukrainian born Sikorsky. In this respect he is different from Stephen Timoshenko who played an important role in foundation of the Ukrainian academy of science. As such, Ukrainian name and Ukrainian specifics are important for the latter but not for Sikorsky. --Irpen 03:04, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
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- so that means I'm not an american because my ethnicity is european?
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In my last change I removed the Russian-American reverance (does anybody sees himself as a Russian-American anyhowe?) and instead wrote that but his parents where Russian. This should make everybody happy, if not: I don't want to understand! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mariah-Yulia (talk • contribs) .
- OK. It didn't make everybody happy so I removed Russian-American to another place. If i wasn't a friend of a Russian girl...Mariah-Yulia 05:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rachmaninov
Rachmaninov was an important funder of Sikorsky's first efforts, should that be mentioned? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.35.93.97 (talk • contribs) .
- Be my guest, it's true! Mariah-Yulia 02:38, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Language
Did he speak Russian, Ukrainian, or both? Did his family speak Russian, Ukrainian, or both? The compromise lead seems to have handled ethnicity by mentioning his birthplace and not elaborating, but it seems quite strange to say nothing on the subject. Perhaps by identifying his language we could quietly give readers the information they expect, without upsetting nationalists? Jd2718 16:22, 4 November 2006 (UTC)