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Contents 1 I-99 2 More photos 3 How about building up a complete list of cities, towns, CDPs, etc. along I-80? 4 California 5 Nevada 6 Infobox 7 Des Plaines River bridge 8 Interstate 238 9 California length 10 List of cities along 80 (don't delete) 11 Map links 12 Teaneck vs. Ridgefield Park for eastern terminus 13 (Non-)Intersections with other Interstates in Ohio 14 Junction List in infobox 15 Own category 16 Refinements

[edit] I-99

I've driven I-99N and I-80E for the last 5 months, and I am positive that the two do NOT intersect. In fact I-99 ends at Bald Eagle. Sdp98 18:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

While I-71 crosses I-80 there is no interchange between the two so there is no direct way from one highway to the other. If you are eastbound on I-80 and want to go south on I-71 it's not too bad, exiting I-80 at Boston Heights route 8 north to I-271 then I-271 South to I-71, but anything else is a real detour. StinKerr 09:54, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I'm looking at a map of Sacramento, and it looks like I-80 branches and becomes two roads when it goes through Sacramento, and both roads are labeled I-80 with no suffixes. Any idea what the situation is there? Ckape 04:01, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The route through downtown is Business Loop 80. http://home.pacbell.net/hywaymn/images/West_Sacramento_Fwy_Signbridge_YC.jpg shows the two routes; the business loop shield is green and has BUSINESS in place of INTERSTATE and LOOP above the number.--SPUI 04:30, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

By the way, http://www.interstate-guide.com/business-routes/index.html is a list of all Interstate business loops and spurs. --SPUI 04:33, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

For what its worth, under "Related Highways" it says "Part of Interstate 80 in Nebraska is known as the Blue Star Memorial Highway". Many portions of I-80 are actually designated as Blue Star Memorial Highways, not just in Nebraska. For example, there is such a sign at the western end of I-80 in San Francisco at the 5th Street off ramp. I know also that portions in New Jersey are likewise so designated. I suspect portions in other states are so designated as well, although I don't know from personal experience.

I have driven all of I-80 except for a few miles in New Jersey. I used to drive across Wyoming before I-80 existed and when it was a two-lane hiway. You can still see pieces of that old hiway and at least one old bridge from the interstate. I used to average 45-50 MPH across the state, now I average 70+. If you can imagine driving across Wyoming at 50 MPH you can understand how amazing the interstate system seems to those of us who drove around this country before it existed.

[edit] More photos

Does anyone have other photos of I-80, perhaps much or somewhat further east than those now on the page? They're fine, but they're both from the first 100 westward miles of a 3,000 mile-long interstate, so not all that representative of the roadway as a whole. Moncrief 04:55, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

I cross I-80 every so often going from Chicago to Galesburg. I'll try to remember to stop and get a picture from the IL-71 bridge over I-80 next time I go. Kelly Martin 06:16, September 11, 2005 (UTC)

What about www.westcoastroads.com?

Next time I'm in Baltimore I can get a photo near the famous "Cove Fort 2200" sign. --Clubjuggle 22:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How about building up a complete list of cities, towns, CDPs, etc. along I-80?

Let me start off from west to east:

[edit] California

• San Francisco County
  • San Francisco
    • Yerba Buena Island
      • Treasure Island
• Alameda County
  • Oakland
  • Emeryville
  • Berkeley
  • Albany
• Contra Costa County
  • Richmond
  • El Cerrito
  • Richmond
  • San Pablo
  • Richmond
  • Pinole
  • Hercules
  • Rodeo
  • Crockett
• Solano County
  • Vallejo
    • Mare Island
• Napa County
  • American Canyon
• Solano County
  • Hiddenbrooke
  • Cordelia
  • Green Valley
  • Fairfield
  • Vacaville
  • Dixon
  • UC Davis
• Yolo County
  • Davis
  • West Sacramento
• Sacramento County
  • Sacramento

[edit] Nevada

• Washoe County
  • Verdi
  • Reno
  • Sparks

--Geopgeop 07:59, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

No one wants to do an infobox for this particular highway using {{routeboxint}} as done with Interstate 5? --Geopgeop 08:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

I'll put that on my list of things to do... probably over the weekend or so, but I don't have the junction data. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs - count) 01:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

I've worked a little on what you put up, by including all the freeway junctions between California and Utah, as well as checking the exit numbers from the Cal-NExUS. I don't know where I could find the exit numbers for the other two states though. --LBMixPro^{(Speak on it!)} 09:13, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Only Interstate junctions go in the routebox. US 101 is an exception since it is the terminus, but this restriction exists because of space. I could find the exit numbers at another site, but it wouldn't be a government site... is that okay regarding copyright? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs - count) 17:32, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I thought the listings were to junctions to actual freeways, since the infobox in the Interstate 5 article includes junctions to both US and California routes. Anybody want to fix that article? I think any graphic or image which was created by the Government is known by WP to be a public domain image, so the exit numbers. I know the California exit numbers are correct, because they are from the Cal-NExUS site. I think your source would work, as long as it fits within WP:RS. By the way, do you think the images from [1] can be used on the article? --LBMixPro^{(Speak on it!)} 05:22, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

My bad... I-5 should not have those junctions on the routebox... I just never got around to fixing it. I'd say that we can't use the westcoastroads.com images unless they give us permission. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:25, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

How about not putting them all on the right side? As for the exit numbers, information cannot be copyrighted; only its presentation can. --SPUI (talk) 05:33, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Do I have to say where I got the exit numbers? And what do you mean by "don't put them on the right side?" --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs - count) 03:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

It would help if you could link the page where you found them.

The source should go in a "Sources" or "References" section. As for the right side, what's the point in having all the junctions in the infobox? There are images that are being pushed way down by this listing, which could easily get its own section. --SPUI (talk) 08:55, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Well this WP was originally inspired by the CA WP, and that's where this routebox comes from. The routebox was conceived as a multi-state routebox, because if every state had its own routebox, and we put every state's routebox on Interstate 95... you get the idea: 15 routeboxes on 1 page. Hence the multi-state routebox. We decided to only do Interstate Highways on there (and only 2dis in extreme cases) to save space. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:25, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Des Plaines River bridge

Do you think the section about this bridge should be in its own article? --LBMixPro^{(Speak on it!)} 05:22, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interstate 238

I believe that Interstate 238 in California should be listed as a child of Interstate 80. Every source I have read indicates that Interstate 238 was a child route of 80 but was not given the usual x80 numbering as no numbers were available. As such I believe this should be listed in the Auxiliary Route table and in the Related Routes section. --Clubjuggle 17:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Um, specifically Interstate 238 is its own family. The numbering comes from California State Route 238. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 19:18, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

The numbering comes from CA-238, but the highway itself was a child of I-80. The 238 number was requested by Caltrans and granted by AASHTO only because no x80 numbers were available[2].

However, 238 is still its own family. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:14, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Source? --Clubjuggle 20:46, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

It shouldn't matter if it's officially a child of I-80 - just put a sentence or two about it in that section. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 07:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] California length

• San Francisco 8.85-3.95
• Alameda 8.04
• Contra Costa 14.14
• Solano+Napa 44.72
• Yolo 11.72
• Sacramento 10.38-10.66+11.27-11.68+18.00
• Placer+Nevada more than 69.23 FUCKING SHIT DOES NOT GIVE THE COUNTY LINE
• Nevada 31.78
• Sierra 1.59

Given the exit numbers, it is 205 miles. But FHWA says 199.24. [3] says that it is no longer an Interstate west of unbuilt I-280, but that only takes off about 1.5 miles. Bah. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 11:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of cities along 80 (don't delete)

Pittsburgh has been deleted from the list of cities along I-80, Pittsburgh is a much along I-80 as Cleveland, New York and Oakland. Two metropolitan Pittsburgh counties have I-80 run through them. Interstate 80 is part of the Pittsburgh census defined metro area. Hholt01 20:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Map links

All of the map links for each of the cities under Intersections with other Interstates links to a town in NJ... - Adolphus79 09:15, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teaneck vs. Ridgefield Park for eastern terminus

If you look at this map, although the interchange is right near the border between Teaneck and Ridgefield Park (the dotted line near the bottom of the map), I-80 itself crosses completely out of Ridgefield Park and so, although some ramps cross back into Ridgefield Park, it can't be the terminus of I-80. I've changed the couple of places where it still says Ridgefield Park in the article back to Teaneck accordingly. —Cleared as filed. 12:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] (Non-)Intersections with other Interstates in Ohio

There are two junctions listed in the article that do not exist. Both are where Interstate 80 is running on the Ohio Turnpike. These are: Interstate 475 near Maumee, OH, and Interstate 271 in Peninsula, OH. In both cases, Interstate 80 crosses the other freeway but doesn't intersect it, i.e. there are no ramps between the two, just the bridge. I will just delete both junctions unless someone comes up with a better idea.

[edit] Junction List in infobox

I added the PA Turnpike junction - while I-476 would not be a major junction, the fact that it is part of the PA Turnpike justifies this placement.
Kether83 08:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Own category

As there are state-specific sections with their own articles, as well as numerous loops and spurs, am I the only one thinking that I-80 should have its own sub-category with the existing Interstate Highway System category? Ranma9617 22:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Strange. I thought it already existed. See Category:U.S. Route 30. It should be okay to create Category:Interstate 80. —Rob (talk) 04:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

In fact, I just created it. The tricky part has been populating relevant articles(there are so many), not to mention that it's uncertain whether it itself should be assigned categories currently assigned to the parent article... Ranma9617 21:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Refinements

I insist that an article that consists mainly of lists isn't a good article. :-)

• All interested editors, please write short summaries of I-80 in the states traversed - I haven't driven out that way in some 15 years.
• The lengths table is at risk of being replaced with the table that's on 90% of the other Interstate articles - this will happen sooner than later.
• Notable bridges will disappear and move up into each state section as a "See also" item.
• The remaining state-specific notes will be moved to the state section.
• Does anyone else here think that the the states in the length table should just link to the states? It's unclear otherwise.
• Rewrite lead?
• General history section
• Figure out what "compelling prose" means in this context

As it is, I feel much less stressed already reading the article in its current form. —Rob (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)