Talk:Irfan Pathan

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[edit] Is this fact(?) encyclopedic?

It seems 12th December has been very lucky for Irfan Pathan. On that date, he debuted in 2003, got his first ten wicket haul in 2004 and debuted as opener(scored 93 runs) in 2005 [1]. Is it encyclopedic? --Gurubrahma 12:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I'm not inclined to note coincidences like that unless they become absurdly improbable, although others may disagree. Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:00, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think its encyclopedic yet. Makrandjoshi 16:38, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

It won't be encyclopedic until he gets a century and ten-for on that day in 2006! Gizza^{Chat ©} 12:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

Can someone upload and use this image? It's under {{cc-by-sa}}. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Sundar! I have uploaded the image but it isn't a clear one & doesn't focus on Irfan. Can someone provied a better image? Thanks Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 07:24, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. This from here is better, but we need to get it released under a suitable licence by writing to the photographer. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Image is uploaded so don't worry!--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 00:34, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA feedback

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1. It is well written.

   a (prose): b (structure): c (MoS): d (jargon):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (inline citations): c (reliable): d (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

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6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

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   a Pass/Fail:

Two comments: firstly, there's a bit of unexplained jargon that non-cricket followers wouldn't understand - specifically "Pathan has since found himself dropped from the team in both forms of the game", where the fact that "both forms of the game" hasn't been metioned previously (ODIs and Tests, I presume). Secondly, the lack of image, although not a killer blow, lets this article down. I understand that Fair Use is a bitch in this area, but maybe try searching Flickr or somewhere for an image which has a good license (see WP:IMAGE). Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 05:10, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I've broken his international career into three logical phases now I guess. Unfortunately, fans aren't allowed anywhere near players on the subcontintent, so we're without a free pic. I doubt we can pilfer one of cricinfos as fair use depiction of a historical event though. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe that, given the way cricket in the subcontinent is, taking a photo of a player would be near-impossible. If you say such in a fair-use rationale on the image page, I see no problem using that Cricinfo image. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 05:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Well to take a portrait, we could not use fairuse under any circumstances, as we could take a photo of him when he is overseas. However the fair use might be used to describe historic events (non-repeatable clause) such as the hat-trick. however, I'm surprised we have never used that excuse on any cricket articles. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm going to promote this after discussion with the primary author both here and in instant messaging chat, after the prose was fixed up, the structure improved and some minor jargon points clarified. I'm envoking the clause about "not having an image does not mean GA" in this case, however it would be great if you could get one that is appropriately licensed. Cheers, and good work, Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 05:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)