Talk:Italian ice

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Contents 1 pronunciation 2 Italian ice = granita? 3 Dessert? 4 Water ice: not quite the same thing

[edit] pronunciation

How is "granite" (one of the names that it's stated this product is known by) pronounced? I assume it's pronounced according to Italian phonetics, not English (i. e. it's not pronounced like the rock, but I'm not sure so I don't want to edit. Izzycat 19:07, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I've heard it pronounced on Food Network by Giada De Laurentiis (Everyday Italian) as "grah-NEE-ta." --Meg 16:25, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

This is right, obviously this is the singular word granita. For the plural word.. just use an "e" like in "edit". --Trifi 12:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Italian ice = granita?

I don't think this is very exact.. granità is more a water based product, while ice cream in other parts of italy (and in sicily, too) is made mostly on milk basis. I am not sure, what an English speaking person understand when hearing "Italian ice", but I would not think of granita or a water-based ice. --Trifi 12:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

to illustrate this difference: look at these pictures..gelato (ice cream):[1] and granita: [2], [3] and [4] --Trifi 12:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

At least in the United States, "Italian Ice" is indeed used to refer to the water-based dessert. If somebody ordered an Italian ice and were given an ice cream or gelato, they would send it back. Your pictures of granita look just like "Italian ice" to me. —Chowbok 03:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

The picture shown on the Article page doesn't resemble granita though, it looks more like ice cream.--84.74.167.74 16:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't ice cream. It was water-based Italina ice. Trust me, I ate some after I took the picture, and I grew up eating Italian ice/granita on frequent trips to Brooklyn.

Do feel free to replace the picture with a better one if you like. —Chowbok 18:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

If this is Italian ice, we have to split the article again, because Granità is much different in consistency. It's much more liquid. --Trifi 08:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

I just had some Italian ice today. It looked just like the pix in the article. It was a product of the Philadelphia Ice Co. I had the chocoloate mousse. then a little late i had coffee flavor. Being lactose intolerant it was just what i needed. Also it was great b/c it doesn't melt fast like ice cream. it was a lot better than a snow cone. it is great stuff. Take Care! --Will^(talk) 02:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

So we can say, that this is not the sicilian dessert called Granita. But how is Italian ice normaly called? Only Italian ice but also granita (I hope not, because it would complicate the neccessary changes.) --Trifi 16:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dessert?

In the Philadelphia area, water ice stands usually have lines in the afternoons, as kids get off school, people get back from a day at the pool, or people just get in the mood. I guess some people might eat it after dinner, but I'd really say it's more of a "snack" than a "desert," no? Passdoubt | Talk 17:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Water ice: not quite the same thing

Although water ice is similar in some ways to Italian ice, it's not the same thing. The fact that you can actually find places selling italian ice next to a Ritas in Philly and that thay are selling two different things is evidence.

Further, one would think when mentioning water ice and 'a popular place to get it' -- HELLO??? Rita's??? The Philly-ubiquitous water-ice stands! There's one on South Street and damned near every other street, usually three per suburbs, etc.

Anyway, Water Ice redirects to this article and it shouldn't because Philly-style water ice is not italian ice, it's just a relative.67.169.63.116 15:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

I tried to re-work the water ice section, but I think water ice should have its own page. In the Philly/South Jersey area it is a very popular frozen treat, in my town alone (less than 3 square miles) there are three water ice shops (with two within a block of the city limit). Simply put, it's not just a regional word like hoagie, water ice just is not the same thing as italian ice. Aufs klo 05:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)