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Talk about Partisan!!!! I don' think the poor dead souls of Novgorod would believe any of this tripe! Meika 00:06, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I need to know more about his contributions to society. If you added a section like that to the article that would be great.

The article constitutes a gross act of misrepresentation, indeed it is a ham-handed hatchet job, interpreting Ivan's record according to the bias of his enemies, both foreign and domestic. He deserves better as does any human being. I direct the author's attention to John Fennel's book, Ivan the Great of Moscow, where the legends of Ivan's supposed timidity are put to rest. What emerges is a consummate diplomat and strategist who never took foolhardy risks but who never shied from a fight when challenged. The article reflects an innumerate level of ignorance regarding Ivan's actions let alone their underlying reasons. When I find the time I shall rewrite it completely on the basis of Fennel's work. So long for now. Soz

You are welcome. The article was imported from the 1911 Britannica and as such is understandably outdated. --Ghirla -трёп- 13:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Longest Ruler Ever?

This needs to include a reference or something, it doesn't even have dates. I won't call it bogus but it also sounds fishy, though the ruling family certainly enjoyed a lot more stability during these years I can't believe it without dates at the very least. Guess tomorrow I'm pulling out the old history books!--JaymzRR 08:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I just did a quick search and, though not as straight forward Peter the Great did suedo-rule for an identical 43 years, for now I am removing the reference since it lacks any real information, reference, or very likely truth.--JaymzRR 08:26, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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