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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Eric Bana 3 Reappropriation 4 Marxism and Marxist philosophy 5 Sociology Project News 6 Peer review on Global justice, planned renovation of Justice 7 Marxism 8 Influences on Karl Marx 9 Justice 10 Category:Articles not related to sociology 11 Cultural capital 12 Hey 13 Good article 14 Aduthura 15 Talk:Obvious 16 Thanks! 17 2006 protests in Hungary 18 League of Copyeditors 19 [Projet:Sociologie] 20 League of Copyeditors participation drive!

[edit] Welcome

Saw you still had no welcome msg.

Welcome!

Hello, JenLouise, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Also, I thought of one project which really needs help. See my reply here on the helpdesk. Garion96 (talk) 03:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Bana

Hey! Thanks for looking through the Eric Bana article and reworking some sentences. Any help you can offer to raise this article to featured status would be wonderful, as I have worked hard on it. I often miss things and make a lot of spelling and grammar errors so your input is greatly appreciated. Thanks! -- Underneath-it-All 03:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reappropriation

Could you please see my response to you at Talk:Reappropriation? Thanks. - Jmabel | Talk 06:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marxism and Marxist philosophy

Thank you for your interest in these pages. I trimmed a bit the repetitions in the Marxist philosophy page, and reversed your move at Marxism. Please see "Marxism" talk page for my explanation (mainly, articles are supposed to be autonomous; if you feel undue space has been given to these topics in the Marxism page and should rather be addressed in the more specialized, "Marxist philosophy" page — which much less, general users, will read, the title itself being sufficient to make more than one afraid... — than you should argue for it first (as these are controversial pages) and then propose a resume of them.) Cheers, looking forward to future contributions, Santa Sangre 12:48, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Santa Sangre, I did suggest it first on the discussion page and waited almost a week before making any changes. Anyway happy to discuss it so I have restarted the discussion there under your response. JenLouise

[edit] Sociology Project News

Sociology Project • News • August 2006
The Sociology WikiProject has been re-activated and new developments are afoot! We are putting in place some tools for classifying, categorizing and assessing sociology-related content on Wikipedia. Please have a look at the Tools section on the project page. Also, the Sociology article has been identified by the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team as a Core Topic, one of the 150 most important articles for any encyclopedia to have. This article has been listed as a good article for meeting the criteria for this category of articles. We're going to be working to improve the article to Featured article status. Please place Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology on your watchlist and Get involved!
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[edit] Peer review on Global justice, planned renovation of Justice

Dear JenLouise - given your interest in the social justice article, I wonder if you'd be interested in taking part in peer review on the new version of Global justice that I've been working on, and/or in commenting on my planned renovation of Justice? Cheers, --Sam Clark 11:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Cheers, --Sam Clark 10:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marxism

Thanks for your note. I am travelling, and will have intermittent and not always very good access to the internet, so I will try to help when I can.

For what it is worth, I thijnk many good people have worked on these articles and while I have no doubt that they can be improved, I suggest that whatever flaws you see in it also take what is there on good faith - think about why it is there and assume people had reasons. I am not trying to discourage you form making changes, only suggesting that the very contents of what we already have can help give you ideas of what people think is important. As a rule, I think you can always turn to User:El_C and User: 172 for advice. I do not always agree with them, but they are thoughtful, well informed, and experienced. Slrubenstein | Talk 09:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I will see what I can do, but at the moment Marxisism is not among my top 'to do' articles. WP:PR is always a good avenue to seek support, and I invite to to seek comments at the (fledging) Wikipedia:WikiProject Sociology, too.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  23:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry for late response. Whatever improvement is a good idea, and I guess a new global rewrite will allows for better homogeneity. I just had a quick look at your proposal, mainly at the structure, and will try to help as I can (but in a few weeks, no time just now). Overall, your plan seems a good idea, especially the part on specific Marxist authors (Gramsci, Althusser, etc.) and on various Marxist movements (although some are still missing; and let's not forget Philosophy in the Soviet Union, although I'm not that much knowledgeable in that field either). I'll only suggest to gather Marx & Engels together (I don't think it's necessary to create two different subsections for them; any details can be left over to their biographies, but on the whole they've cooperated enough together to be treated simultaneously). I also think you can just take out (or rather, move to criticisms, the ideological part on libertarians calling modern states "Marxists"). The first subsection on "Marxism" and "Marxian" seem a good way to introduce the matter. I wonder also if we could make in the introduction the distinction between Marxism as a political (and mass) movement (Communist parties and states), as an ideology (Marxist ideology, that is "Marxism" as popularly known) and Marxism as a political theory or philosophy (independent from orthodox or vulgar Marxism) — this distinction is common enough, but may be found in Etienne Balibar's works. Cheers and thanks for your work! Santa Sangre 14:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

PS: this distinction between Marxism as a political movement, an ideology or a philosophy will also permit us to treat Socialism (i.e. Marxism as a political movement) in the relevant article. In other words, I think it's better to reserve the Marxism article for Marxist theory (or philosophy) and its relations with Marxist ideology (or orthodox Marxism). Thus, Marxism would be about Marxist theory and theorists, and Socialism and Communism about Marxism as a mass political movement (which, as Eric Hobsbawm liked to recall, gathered a third of humankind in 1950). Santa Sangre 14:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

There's also much work need, IMO, in Marx's theory of human nature (which seems to endorse one commentator's POV to the exclusion of any other POV, quite surprising) and Marx's theory of alienation. These subarticles are probably the best way to introduce on specific topics of Marxist thought (as Commodity fetishism, etc.). Santa Sangre 14:27, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Influences on Karl Marx

Hi, Jen! I've being doing a research about Marx to write an article in which I make some comparisons between some of his basic concepts and Kardec's ones. The article you've written about the influences on Marx has been very useful, but I'd like you to tell me about academic sources, such as articles or books that support your statements. They look absolutely correct, but I unfortunately don't think I can point Wikipedia as a valid source, at least for now... Arges 16:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Justice

Hi - just thought you might like to know that I've just put the revised version of this article live. Comments welcome. Cheers, Sam Clark 14:42, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Articles not related to sociology

Category:Articles not related to sociology is up for deletion. It looks like it's pretty much a foregone conclusion already. I suggest creating a list on the WikiProject page, and announcing that any article that doesn't belong in the category will be removed after a week. --M@rēino 18:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural capital

Hi,

You imply to a book in this article but don't write its name. "On the other hand, two authors have introduced new variables into Bourdieu’s concept of cultural capital. Emmison & Frow’s (1998) work centres on an exploration of the ability of Information Technology to be considered a form of cultural capital. "

I can't find this book in google. Can you tell me its name?--Communicator1 11:02, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Also we should add the list of references in this article.--Communicator1 11:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I read this article carefully. I think we can candidate it as a good article after adding the list of references .--Communicator1 12:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know I forgot to put references in. I will do so asap! Cheers. JenLouise

Thanks for this good article. Please answer my first question too. There isn't anything about "Emmison & Frow’s (1998)" on the web except in wikipedia. [1] I guess the year is wrong.--Communicator1 02:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Its a journal article so unless you searched for it in a journal database it wouldn't come up. I got it either through APAFT (Australian Public Affairs Full Text) database or EAI (Expanded Academic Index). I thought I put the details of the Journal into the article. If not I will do so. JenLouise 00:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Hi, sorry for the late reply, but I've been away from wikipedia. If there's anything you need help with, just drop me a message. However, I am not a Marxism expert, and I am not a Marxist (I just agree with some of its social analysis), so I'm not sure whether I can be much help, detailed-content-wise. But, I'm good at structuring articles and also general formatting/layout stuff, so if you run into those don't hesitate to ask! :) -- infinity0 00:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good article

Hi,

I've candidated Cultural capital as a "good article":Wikipedia:Good article candidates#Social sciences (includes economy, law, politics, war). --Communicator1 12:51, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aduthura

Hi. I see you have copyedited Aduthurai after me. How do you think the Temples at Aduthurai section should be approached? I cannot make sense of most of the sentences in it, nor can I imagine how they could be clarified. To draw attention to this I have inserted the confusing tag. Some of the stories in the section might not even belong there.

Before I started with it, it was barely readable. You amended some errors I left. Thank you.

For some reason I become fond of articles I extensively edit. Rintrah 10:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Obvious

You marked this page for deletion as a redirect that doesn't make sense. There are a couple of things wrong with that: first of all, you should have tagged Obvious, not its talk page, because that's the one that was a redirect. And secondly, you should stick to one of the specific criteria for speedy deletion when requesting speedy deletion; redirects can be speedy deleted if they have a non-existent target, if they go from the main space to user space, or if they're based on an implausible typo, none of which apply here. In this case, Obvious redirects to an album containing the song "Obvious" by Jane's Addiction... but because of your confusion about it, and some other stuff, I have nominated this redirect for a full deletion discussion at WP:RFD; you might want to comment there. Mangojuice^talk 14:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

		The TomStar81 Spelling Award
		Be it known to all members of Wikipedia that JenLouise has corrected my god-awful spelling on the page American Empire (Ghost in the Shell), and in doing so has made an important and very significant contribution to the Wikipedia community, thereby earning this TomStar81 Spelling Award and my deepest thanks. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 02:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 protests in Hungary

Hi, Jen! Thanks for pointing out the mistakes in the 2006 protests in Hungary. I tried to fix what I could. Most of the article was written by several Hungarians with different levels of ability in writing in English. Sometimes I try to fix the errors but my English is not perfect either. Could you please check the article now? Thanks! – Alensha ^talk 19:05, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] League of Copyeditors

Hi. Because you edited Aduthurai with me, I consider you my comrade. You might want to consider enlisting in the League of Copyeditors. Rintrah 23:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been busy lately and haven't had a chance yet to come by and thank you for your interest in the League of Copyeditors. I've read through quite a few of your edits, as well as the copyediting collaboration of Aduthurai between Rintrah and yourself. I have no doubt that you are going to be a fine addition to our little troupe and I look forward to working with you in the future. Trusilver 03:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] [Projet:Sociologie]

Just a little look on this page !

[edit] League of Copyeditors participation drive!

Dear League member,

We've started a participation drive for the remainder of February. If you can, please help clear the backlog by adopting the following goals each week:

• Select an article to copy-edit from the backlog. After your copy-edit, list the article in the articles ready for final proofread section.
• Select a different article to proofread from the articles ready for final proofread section.

Thanks for your help! BuddingJournalist 08:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)