Talk:Jewish diaspora
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Moving this to talk. Reasons:
- WP already contains these numbers in at least once Timeline of Jewish history. It's a good practice to keep things centralized in one place, for many reasons.
- They start too late and end too early.
In general, I am not against having numbers here. Maybe they belong here even more than the timeline? Humus sapiens 23:07, 11 Jan 2004 (UTC)
1343 Persecuted in the Western Europe Jews invited to Poland by Casimir III.
1648 Jewish population of Poland reached 450,000 or 4.5% whole population. Bohemia 40,000 and Moravia 25,000. Worldwide population of Jewry is estimated at 750,000.
1750 Jewish population of Poland reaches 750,000 or 8.0% of total. The worldwide Jewish population is estimated at 1,200,000.
1800 Russia creates the Pale of Settlement, that includes area taken over from Poland, with huge Jewish population and Crimea. The Jewish population of the Pale was 750,000. 450,000 Jews lived in the Prussian and Austrian parts of Poland. [1]
1880 World Jewish population around 7,700,000, 90% in Europe, mostly Eastern part. Around 3,5 milions in the former Polish provinces.
1880 - 1920 Two million Russian Jews migrate to the US. Therefore the main pulse of the Jewish live moves from former Poland to USA.
1897 First Russian census: 5,200,000 of Jews, 4,900,000 in the Pale. The Kingdom of Poland has 1,300,000 Jews or 14% of population.
1924 2,989,000 Jews according to religion poll in Poland (10,5% of total). Jewish youth consituted 23% of students of high schools and 26% of students of universities.
1930 World Jewry: 15,000,000. Main countries USA (4,000,000), Poland (3,500,000 or 11% of total), Soviet Union (2,700,000 or 2% of total), Romania (1,000,000 or 6% of total), Palestine (175,000 or 17% of total 1,036,000).
My edit removed the bold text of the following sentence that appears in the article:
In today's diaspora, the largest number of Jews (5,671,000 in 2003 1) live in the United States, 340,000 in Canada.
I felt the information about Canada added confusion. Does Canada's Jewish population constitute the second largest diaspora group in the world? If this is the case, please re-place it in a seperate sentence. As it stands, I do not understand why it was added to begin with; let alone at the end of a sentence about America's Jewish population.
Yours sincerely and respectfully, --Cormac Canales 19:25, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
russian and ukrainian jewish populations constitute about 1 million jews combained and the number of jews officialy in russia is unreal, from 2.7 million in the soviet union in 1930 to 200K today?
Militaryov calls this number "especially funny". By his estimate, the real number should be 2-3 million. See also Jewish Virtual Library
The ashkenaz sephard split did occur in the Dark Ages if you consider the Dark Ages as 476 CE - c800-1000 CE as the article Dark Ages indicates.
[edit] A few notes on conversion
I have added a few lines on the rather undoubtable fact that during the hellenistic period, the spread of the Jewish religion to most major cities could not be wholly attributed to migration. The Alexandrinian population alone was likely as large as the entire amount of people living in the area of Israel. Convertites formed a large fraction - it is well known that the Hasmonean kings had an active policy of spreading the Jewish religion, so this is certainly not controversial. This does however give reason to state that the diaspora is to some extent spiritual - descendants of Alexandrinian convertites could of course not be said to be physically exiles from Israel. I hope no-one takes offence. Respectfully, --Sponsianus 22:32, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
