User talk:JimDunning

Contents 1 Education Welcome 2 Malcolm in the Middle 3 Watership Down 4 your question at helpdesk 5 Infobox Town NY 6 Thanks! 7 Welcome to the Films WikiProject! 8 69.119.119.178 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) 9 Subpages 10 WP:FILMS Newsletter 11 BRHS Revamp 12 Deleting pages 13 License tagging for Image:Loudoun Seal.jpg 14 Demographic Information of schools 15 Your GA nomination of Broad Run High School 16 WP:Films Newsletter 17 Orphaned fair use image (Image:WayneCountyNYUSALogo.gif) 18 The Prestige: current talk page? 19 WikiProject Schools Sidebar 20 Your libertarian opinions 21 Stowe middle school 22 Article restart 23 Re: Prestige 24 WikiProject Films February Newsletter 25 The Prestige (film) 26 Your GA nomination of The Prestige (film) 27 Thank you for making me a star 28 If you happen to know... 29 New lead 30 Battlefield HS Advice Taken 31 User:DJvac 32 March WP:FILMS Newsletter 33 R. Madhavan revert 34 Children of Men 35 Last Mimzy 36 mimzy 37 List-to-prose tag removed from The Prestige (film)

[edit] Education Welcome

Feel free to educate me by pointing any errors I make, or by offering other points of view. This is a great way for me to expand my knowledge and I appreciate your help.

[edit] Malcolm in the Middle

Jim,

Please review your edit of Malcolm in the Middle. I do not pretend to know Wikki speak but I believe the article was better before. As an example, the last sentence in Victor & Ida is incomplete. Can you undo this or was it intentional? It could be part of the process.

I was a fan and wrote a few sentences of the article so I check it occasionally.

Best regards,

wsb@austin.rr.com Bill

Bill, thanks for raising this question, however, I don't think these mods were mine. The changes I made on 25 July 2006 were simple paragraph reformatting. But as I look at the revision history I see what you mean. These changes were unintentional and happened either because of a technical issue or my complete incompetence. ;-) I see someone has been good enough to revert back to the original version, so we're all set. In the future, I think I'll also do a version comparison in addition to the simple preview. Thanks.

Jim Dunning 18:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Watership Down

Hi, your edit to Watership Down has been reverted. If you're using Firefox together with Google Toolbar, you may find that long pages are cut off unexpectedly while editing in tabs; please be careful. --Kjoonlee 11:52, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your question at helpdesk

Hi, if you want to include a template in an article, place {{Infobox Town NY}} at the appropriate section -- -- Lost^(talk) 17:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Town NY

I have edited this infobox in order to make room for your map. I have added your template to Brookhaven, New York, you can look for yourself. If you have any questions or comments leave me a message. --Zimbabweed 07:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much for helping out in Williamson, NY, as well as other New York articles. Stepp-Wulf 01:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC).

I will look into your recent inquiry regarding the red dot in IE. However, it may take a while, but I will get back to you before the day is over about it. --Zimbabweed 15:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it seems Internet Explorer can't handle (or at least doesn't in v6 as I'm using, I normally use Firefox, I haven't used IE in quite some time) PNG images, so I have changed the red dot image in the template (Image:GBRedDot.png) to a JPG (Image:Red-dot3.jpg) in Template:GBNewYorkState. (I hope the creator of that template won't get too upset). It should be working now, if it doesn't let me know.--Zimbabweed 23:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if you're watching my talk page, so I'll respond here. A very quick Wikipedia search :) found me this: PNG#Internet Explorer incompatibility. That should answer your inquiries. Sorry I hadn't responded yesterday like I had said, but things had piled up around here. If you have any more questions, don't be afraid. --Zimbabweed 00:02, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for your message. I hadn't intended to get so involved in the article, but once I got there, it turned out the page needed much babysitting. How exciting that your son worked on the film – he must have lots of inside anecdotes, AKA "original research." Cognita 02:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to the Films WikiProject!

[edit] 69.119.119.178 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log)

I haven't looked into it, but if your observations are correct, it borders on vandalism. You may want to start at WP:AN/I, find the appropriate link or page in the header and make a report. My guess is that there is an admin already familiar with this user, if it has a history of disruptive behavior. You may get a faster response if you track down the original blocking admin. Looking at the log, you might be better off making a report at WP:AIAV. —Viriditas | Talk 04:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

See also WP:TT for future ref. I just placed a warning on the anon's talk page for his edits to Zach Tyler Eisen, using the "verror" template. If the anon vandalizes again in the same manner, use that in sequential order to justify a block. —Viriditas | Talk 07:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Jim, I posted again at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sarah_Ewart ; please check this if the page isn't already on your watchlist.

Viriditas, we think the vandal is Zach. Cognita 08:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Jim, see my comments here about using Sarah's talk page. —Viriditas | Talk 20:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Jim, sorry for the delay replying. I've extended the block on that IP to 6 months. I don't really want to go longer than that since IPs can be reassigned. We can always re-block in another 6 months if necessary. Sarah Ewart 03:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subpages

See WP:SP. Easiest way to remember it is wikify, forward slash, foo: /Foo. —Viriditas | Talk 07:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:FILMS Newsletter

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[edit] BRHS Revamp

Hi. I had a look at BRHS Revamp. I assume this is intended as a new version for Broad Run High School or something. I would propose to userfy (move) this to User:JimDunning/BRHS Revamp (or the like). Better not in main space. Merry x-mas! --Ligulem 13:53, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

I've moved it to User:JimDunning/BRHS Revamp and deleted the remaining redirect. --Ligulem 14:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting pages

To have a page under your userspace deleted, blank it and put {{db-user}} onto it. An admin will then delete it. Or you can ask an admin directly. --Ligulem 15:05, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Loudoun Seal.jpg

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[edit] Demographic Information of schools

Enrollment information can be found at this site. It goes back to the 1995-1996 school year. Schools are broken down by grade and ethnicity.

Some exceptions will exist here however, including on BR or any Loudoun school. I used to have a list showing enrollment at schools in fast growing school districts throughout a school year (including Loudoun County), but I lost it now. I used it for a senior thesis while I was in college. This would explain why BR had 1,670 students in 1999-2000 rather than 1,650 or so. Schools can grow by almost 100 people during the course of a school year if in a very high growth area (which can explain why Briar Woods and Freedom are growing faster than enrollment indicators suggest; Broad Run and Stone Bridge have settled out for the most part now).

Another thing you may notice if you look at the racial breakdown is that there are categories for Native Americans, Hawaiians, and "Unspecified/Other." I rounded out the percentages of Whites, Hispanics, Blacks and Asians to the nearest whole number, and though I don't want to sound politically incorrect, most schools in Virginia are under 1% Native American, but I would say a school is 1% Native American if there were a sufficient amount of people, at least for the purposes of Wikipedia. Next, you may notice that the percentage of Whites is higher than the Virginia Dept of Education suggests in some schools. This is because the "unspecified" students are assumed to be White, and this was the advice I was told to take from my professor when doing my thesis to count "unspecified people." Hope this helps. 20176 00:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your GA nomination of Broad Run High School

The article Broad Run High School you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Broad Run High School for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations. Appraiser 16:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome again. A lot of people misunderstand the best way to use the thumbnail feature (you're not alone). If you click on "my preferences" at the top of your screen and then "Files", you'll see your default thumbnail size. Whenever an author didn't specify a thumbnail size, when you view the article, the width of the thumbnails will be equal to your selection. This is useful so that users with a 600 pixel screen don't have to see the same size pictures as users with a 1600 pixel screen. I've been in discussions with people who like the layout of an article with certain picture sizes, but the layout looks completely different on a smaller screen. It's really fruitless to try to control layout that way. Some people even read Wikipedia on a PDA. For that reason, I've advocated creating a new user preference option of 0px (no pictures), but that hasn't yet been implemented. There's some discussion about this topic here.

I hope you don't mind that I edited your picture. I self-nominated a picture[1] of my own for Featured Picture a while ago - and it failed the process miserably. One of the criticisms was that it was tilted. When I used my picture editor to fix it, I saw that they were correct - it was 1/2 degree off of true vertical, which I could barely perceive by looking at it.

Good job with all the references. I need to do work like that on my failed GA nominee, Saint Paul, Minnesota. But today, I'll be working on 110th United States Congress freshman class. I'm planning to nominate it for DYK, since it's brand new.--Appraiser 14:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:Films Newsletter

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[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:WayneCountyNYUSALogo.gif)

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[edit] The Prestige: current talk page?

Jim, thanks for archiving that discussion page. I don't know how to do such things myself. But if that page has slipped into the past to become Archive 2, where's the current discussion page? When I click on Discussion, I get Archive 2. Cognita 01:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Cognita, Mmmm . . . when I click on Discussion I get the current Talk page, so it appears to be where it's supposed to be. Weird. I'll check this out some more.

Jim Dunning 02:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I think I was misled before because some previous topics remain on the current disc. page – you split the old page at some date in December instead of archiving everything up to the present.

About not being able to edit the article or its disc. page, I don't know what's wrong. I may have mentioned earlier that my tech skills are pretty much limited to safe operation of a refrigerator magnet. All I can think of is that you might try a different browser. Cognita 06:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Viriditas made the first archive. He seems to have wandered off since, though. Cognita 18:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Jim, I don't see a need for a "differences" section. I haven't tossed my two cents on the table because I see no way to resolve the disagreement. There's no real governance structure here; for instance, majority rule doesn't carry a decision. Trying to act as a page guardian on this or any article frustrates me. People keep coming along and messing something up. Cognita 01:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you think it would help if I posted my opinion on the discussion page or on his page, arguing against the new section? Cognita 06:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

It didn't seem to me that UNoHoo accepted anything I said. He just argued against each point. On another forum, I recently saw a discussion of the phrase "selling a salami one slice at a time," which sounds like the situation here, only in reverse. Do you really think we can discard successive slices of salami until it's all gone without attracting notice? And what if he finds these talk pages?

Why not suggest on Prestige:Talk that Adaptation is the natural place for such information? Cognita 01:24, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Schools Sidebar

Thanks! I'm glad you like it. Were you asking about the statistics table? It's automatically updated by a bot run by the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team for any articles listed with {{WPSchool}}. As far as updating the Things you can do list, I'm about to transfer that into a called "Template:WikiProject Schools tasks" for easier access --Jh12 06:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your libertarian opinions

Wow, a double 100! I'd like to hear your opinions on a couple of questions which I disagreed or answered maybe:

1. "Replace government welfare with private charity"
2. "There should be no National ID card"
3. "Repeal laws prohibiting adult possession and use of drugs"

A fellow libertarian, Λυδαcιτγ 05:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I don't know if you mean for your blue outline div to only extend partway down the page. If you want it to automatically envelop new sections, you can remove the:

</div>

Λυδαcιτγ 05:29, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stowe middle school

In case you need this: User:Jh12/Stowe middle school. Thanks! --Jh12 10:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article restart

To tell the truth, I'm not really familiar with the rules or traditions associated with restarting articles. I know that if you simply replace the article, there is a pretty strong tendency to delete it; someone might even speedy delete it as a recreated article. If you add significant new information to the article (and say so on the talk page), then I think it would be given a fair chance. Personally (speaking of course as the person who AFDed the articles) I would recommend against recreating the articles; unless there is something special to say about the school, middle school articles tend to get deleted at AFD. (Several other mass AFDs that I just did failed, but the admin who closed them was a notorious inclusionist, and I will probably send one of those sets to "Deletion Review".) I think there are many other things to be done on Wikipedia other than creating articles on local schools that aren't really wanted. --Brianyoumans 05:25, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm just as unfamiliar with restarting an article as Brianyoumans would be. However if I had to guess, the article is going to have to be "notable", and needs to be backed up with references, etc. There should also be an admin from our area who would look primarily at Virginia related articles, and a couple guys have tried to do this. This is a double edged sword however, because if this admin is like Brian, a lot more articles can be deleted, but if the guy is an "inclusionist," then they are more likely to be protected, if you want to call it that way. I find it surprising that LCPS middle school pages are merged or deleted, while Fairfax ones got to stay (different admin oversaw those pages). I also helped get a wikipedia page of all VHSL districts and regions, many which barely state its name and members, and these empty pages are located mostly in Southwest VA too. It would help if someone familiar with that area started chipping in, but it's kind of luck of the draw too. But as I said earlier, if we were to restart any middle school in Loudoun, notability will be important, and/or references. Though a page can't be deleted for notability alone, that still will make or break a page in the eyes of somebody who will delete a page because he/she doesn't see anything notable, etc.20176 00:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Prestige

No, it was my mistake. WikiNew 17:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm definitely willing to help out. FYI...we don't need peer review for GA, but we do need it for FA. You must be very proud of your son. —Viriditas | Talk 00:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I tinkered with the lead. Details are in your sandbox; good use of a resource there. I'm too busy saving other parts of the world (adminning other forums and dealing with local justice issue) to put in much time on this one; haven't looked at the main article lately. Is there a deadline? Cognita 07:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Jim, people are constantly making changes to the page, including the Plot section that Viriditas and I once devoted much effort to getting into shape. What can a GA nomination accomplish if the article changes all the time? I'm still too busy with other projects to help much. Cognita 19:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] The Prestige (film)

I've been helping out for the articles GA nomination, and a quick question over images. Which of these two do you helps supplement more regarding Angiers suicidal scheme?

http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/prestige/gallery.php?page=36&size=lores&nopop=1

http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/m/prestige/gallery.php?page=4&size=lores

WikiNew 19:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. As for IPs just wanting to make a contribution when it's not needed, I would consider it something more experienced users would simply undo. Things like that and vandalism isn't under the stability criteria: something like changing the structure of the article completely is a problem. Overall, it's up to the GA judge to decide. WikiNew 20:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your GA nomination of The Prestige (film)

The article The Prestige (film) you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:The Prestige (film) for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		I award you, JimDunning, this barnstar for your all of work in making Wikipedia articles better. After getting 2 good articles to your name, I believe that you deserve this as thanks for making Wikipedia a better place. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 01:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Woo! We did it! WikiNew 17:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for making me a star

Jim, thanks for that nice blue star you dropped onto my page. It was unexpected; I didn't know that work on just one article brought barnstars. In fact, I know little about them at all. I kind of thought only admins could dispense them.

Viriditas should get one if I should. He put a lot of work into Plot. For a while, we e-mailed drafts back and forth to improve that section.

And you should get one too – which you did. Congratulations on it! Cognita 05:28, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats to you both, and thanks for the star. —Viriditas | Talk 11:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] If you happen to know...

Last November, I posted a film-related question on an article. No answer yet. Your user page says you're interested in film. Do you happen to know of a reference to support the statement that many Westerns have been shot on location in Columbia, California? I know the statement is true (one of the times I went there as a child, they were shooting Bullwhip and I got Rhonda Fleming's autograph). I just don't know how to support it. Cognita 06:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New lead

I like what you've done with the new lead for Children of Men, but we've had problems with unsourced leads in the past; some editors (not you) see this as an opportunity to add original research, not comprehending that the lead is summarizing the body of the article. To prevent that from happening again (and again) we should cite sources in the lead section. —Viriditas | Talk 21:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Battlefield HS Advice Taken

Jim:

Thanks for your outstanding and constructive suggestions for improving the Battlefield High School article. I genuinely appreciate the effort you put into the review and for giving such clear indications for how to improve it!

Bhs itrt 18:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit: And thanks for the AWESOME help with the references and citations! Bhs itrt 16:25, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:DJvac

Since he's been doing the same thing to the Tops article, I've requested page protection as I just went to the fourth revert.

He won't discuss this. I am also taking this to WP:AN/I. I hope he gets blocked. I consider further additions of this content to be vandalism.

I strongly suggest that if he continues, you request page protection for the Wegmans article as well. Daniel Case 02:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

UPDATE: After I took this to AN/I, an admin there blocked him for 48 hours. Daniel Case 04:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] March WP:FILMS Newsletter

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[edit] R. Madhavan revert

You said: "Yamla, I see you reverted a name change in the Infobox for R. Madhavan from Madhavan to Maddyhavan. I reverted that since I couldn't find any reference to Maddyhavan anywhere, thinking you were either wrong or vandalizing. However, after reviewing your contribs and user page and that of FA Maker I'm obviously more suspicious of him (although the Madhavan info seems fine). Could you fill me in on the situation, please? Thank you."

Sorry, I should have used an edit summary. I reverted an edit made by a banned sockpuppet under the theory of WP:DENY. Please feel free to redo that edit, but note that you will then be "owning" it. For example, if I reverted an edit which inserted libel and then you redo the edit, you would then be responsible for the libel, not the banned user who originally made the edit. I seriously doubt that's the case here, mind you. Please feel free to contact me again if you want any more information. --Yamla 15:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

You said: "So, if I understand this, you reverted the edit even though it appears to be a valid correction just to deny recognition to the suspected sockpuppet? I have no problem making the subsequent correction, but I should not revert, just make the correction as if the sockpuppet's edit never occurred, correct? Thanks for the education."

Exactly correct all around, yes. I mean, it's hardly like anyone would mind if you just reverted, but yes, the correct course of action is for you to go ahead and make the edit as though the sockpuppet's edit never occurred. Have a good day! --Yamla 20:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Children of Men

All right, fair enough. I very much appreciate your eloquence in dealing w/the NPOV situation. Yes, the critical response has been overwhelmingly positive, as well it should be. Children of Men is one of the best sci-fi movies I've ever seen.C1k3 05:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Last Mimzy

Thanks for saving my comments in the talk section. Not really sure what to do next. The article is woefully inadequate as-is. Much of the critical information about the movie's plot is left out in the current version.

I understand the desire to get "to the point" as it were. But I often find that many books and tv show articles that I've worked on have literally tens if not hundreds of pages of text. I'd be interested in giving it another shot if you could provide some more specific feedback of what you'd like to see on that page - and perhaps an example of a good film article that I could base this on.

Thanks.Jpittman 19:39, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] mimzy

I've taken another shot. Let me know what you think. I arranged the information into chronological order, but I had a tough time removing much. I freely admit that it is a bit long. Major themes in the movie include (family relationships including trust, spiritual/ecological/science conflicts, as well as journey theme). I really feel like you need almost all of this information to capture all of these elements. But, please, go nuts. I figure you can be more objective than I can since I was smitten with the movie. Cheers. Jpittman 15:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List-to-prose tag removed from The Prestige (film)

Nope, I was just trying to clear up a debate. Glad everything worked out :) --gren グレン 15:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)