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1975 Australia: Kings Cross, Sydney, newspaper proprietor Juanita Neilsen, who had been campaigning against urban developers, entered a nightclub and was never seen again. Her killers have never been found. http://www.milesago.com/Features/nielsen.htm


I was trying to think of a way of saying that Louis Armstrong was not born on July 4, 1900, which was a date invented for publicity purposes. He was born a year and a month later. Normally, we wouldn't note the days people were not born because it would pretty much clog up every entry, but Louis was famous for having been "born" on that day. The biographical entry mentions the discrepancy. Ortolan88

[edit] Removal of British Channel swimming event

After discussion with the user who posted this (88.110.146.18), I am removing this entry from events:

The reason is that it does not meet Wikipedia:Notability on a global scale over time, the criteria that has been established for listing events on Wikicalendar pages. Mr. Walliams, though he may be a notable person, is not the first or the fastest man to swim the channel, nor the first to raise money. It was certaininly a notable accomplishment for him, which should be detailed on his page, but not here. If anyone has any comments, feel free to discuss them here. Fabricationary 23:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

But that proposed guideline has no weight. There is no evidence it has consensus - you are the only editor. It is clearly still in the formative stages - there are still lots of meta-questions embedded in the guidelines. Even the main WikiProject it is meant to apply to is in serious breach of the proposed guidelines. Using this proposal as a reason to quash one particular entry is inappropriate. Gwernol 09:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
True, I contributed to that proposal, but so did many others. It was formed because many requested such guidelines on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. Currently, many editors (in fact, the majority of editors that frequent the Wikicalendar project) follow the guidelines because they are common sense. Since it has been posted, there have been no serious criticisms. Given your comments to me now and those in the past, I feel your motives are rooted from unfounded dislike of my editing rather than rationality. If anyone has any genuine problems with the proposal, please feel free to discuss them on the proposal's talk page. Fabricationary 14:40, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

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