Talk:List of fictional dogs
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Erm sorry to be difficult but how are the Blue Peter dogs fictional? I mean I know the first Petra was a ringer as the pup died soon after it was first shown but other than that I feel they are - how can I put this - not quite on the same level as Lassie, Snoopy etc! Nevilley 16:31 Dec 23, 2002 (UTC)
someone should mention that painting of the dogs playing poker
Isn't Anubis a jackal? -- Paul A, 20 Jan 2003 1:57pm (UTC)
- No one knows for sure. See The Anubis Debate Ortolan88
I don't understand why "Bird Dog" by the Everly Brothers was removed, so I'm putting it back in the hope of being able to discuss it. Sure, it's an extended metaphor, but the metaphorical dog is addressed quite clearly as a dog, attention is drawn to its doggy characteristics etc - I think it's strong enough to stay. Discussion please? :) Nevilley 07:04 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)
- I take it that the fact that it was removed again without much discussion (one line in the summary) means that the said discusssion was not welcome. Oh well. I think the removal is a mistake but cannot be bothered to pursue it. Nevilley 20:17 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)
Nevilley,
I removed the bird dog twice because Johnny (the bird dog in the song) is not a dog. He is a teenage boy who tries to court girls who are in relationships with other boys. In the song, he is compared to a hound, a bird and a bird dog. If he were a dog, I would leave him in, but he is not. I don't think Johnny belongs on the list. --Two halves 20:25 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)
Someone else,
IMHO, the hound dog in "Hound Dog" does belong on this list. The singer of hound dog, could (albeit in a somewhat ironic way) be addressing a real dog. The singer of bird dog is not. --Two halves 20:30 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)
- The singer of hound dog is most decidedly not addressing a four-legged dog. -- Someone else 20:33 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)
- Well, I must admit that a dog can't talk (First line, second verse). And yes, Big Momma Thornton is using a literary device to compare her lover to a dog. But, if you truly believe that, this hound dog doesn't belong on a list of fictional dogs either. Sorry. --Two halves 20:42 Apr 6, 2003 (UTC)
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[edit] Dogs in Advertising
Just realized that these are real dogs on the fictional dogs list. What was the intention, here? The characters? Split off into their own list?
And on the subject, can someone in the US check that I've spelled Ubu Productions right? I need to fix the redirect.
Quill 04:16, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- I know. Inconsistency sucks, huh? :-) Maybe it's time to rethink some of the categorization--and in particular lately I've been contemplating whether in fact we ought to have categories and subcategories that mirror some of the organization here rather than having everything go into Category:Fictional dogs--because, as you point out, indeed the real-dog-actors stuff doesn't belong there--although it's not exactly clear what dogs in advertising really are. E.g., the taco bell dog is *portrayed* by a real dog but a real dog would never behave the way this one is shown as behaving. And now I'm off for a 10-day vacation. With my--ahem--real dogs. Elf | Talk 05:05, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] There is popular music in cartoons
Most people say they heard popular music in the cartoons. for example: A song by Steam was truly used in a 1969 Scooby-Doo cartoon, before the show changed the music by it's networks.
- Yes, but this page is for fictional dogs, not the music in one's cartoons. Please feel free to contribute any fictional dogs we may have overlooked. Lachatdelarue (talk) 03:26, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- To clarify: This page is for names or descriptions of the dogs. The entry formerly named "*"Na, Na, Hey, Hey, Kiss Him Goodbye" by Steam, was used in a 1969 Scooby-Doo cartoon." could go into the article on Steam or Na, Na, Hey, Hey, Kiss Him Goodbye (if there were such an article) or Scooby-Doo, because it's about those things, but the song is not about a dog and neither is the fact that it appeared in a dog cartoon. Elf | Talk 05:02, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Any dogs based on classical?
Here's only one, a unknown dog is heard in "A Streetcar named desire", is a opera composed or written by Andre Previn.
[edit] Which template?
The first is currently used; the second is the one I think is appropriate. Brianjd 09:36, 2005 Jan 2 (UTC)
[edit] Songs
Some quality control is needed here. it's fictional dogs we're looking for, not the word dog in songs titles or lyrics. i'd say a song has to be narrative in order for there to be a dog character. clearly not led zeppelin's black dog. Youdontsmellbad 22:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC) No one's said anything, so i'm going to go ahead and delete the inappropriate songs. Youdontsmellbad 22:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
deleted "black dog" by led zeppelin, along with:
- "Bird Dog" by the Everly Brothers (only metaphorically a dog)
- "Hound Dog", as sung by Big Mama Thornton and Elvis Presley (only metaphorically a dog)
- "I Wanna Be Your Dog", as performed by Iggy Pop and The Stooges
- "Jingle Bells" as performed by the Singing Dogs
- "Dogs" by Pink Floyd from the Animals album, referring to vicious people
- "Dog Song" by Nellie McCay is about the comfort felt by dog owners
- "Let Sleeping Dogs Die" by The Mission UK
- "The Dogs of War" by Pink Floyd (a metaphor created by William Shakespeare)
- "Dog Years" by RUSH makes reference to Sirus the Dog Star
Anyone have a problem with this?
Youdontsmellbad 22:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)