Talk:Maltese (dog)

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Contents 1 Please consider removal of 'cute' wording 2 Added another Maltese Picture 3 Weight of Maltese 4 Maltese biting 5 Winter Nose 6 Copyrighted text 7 Famous Maltese Owners 8 History/Origins 9 Call for Cleanup 10 New picture 11 Needs to be more objective 12 "White dog?" 13 Easily injured? 14 Article Name/Move

[edit] Please consider removal of 'cute' wording

Whislt reading this article I have noticed 'cute' phrases, most probably written by those who adore their precious little dogs. This is all very well, however this is an encyclopedia that requires factual and accurate information. For example, I noticed that in a picture of two maltese interacting, they were duubed as 'kissing'. 'Kissing' holds connotations that maltese dogs are familiar with our way of kissing. They were probably trying to pick up a scent of a foodstuff or something to that effect. Please avoid the use of such language.

Waffenkartoffel 10: 31 4/3/07 (BST)

I moved the history stuff down to a new section, specifically for it; it didn't really belong in with the temperament stuff, especially at the top. I changed the information on weights to make it less America-centric -- I have found one standard allows weights up to 4 kg (though most of them call for lower weights). I made a few minor phrasing tweaks.

Inkburrow 21:36, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Added another Maltese Picture

Put it under the "care" section, outlining a "normal" Maltese, without excessive professional grooming or much done to curb the slight tear stain she has. Its main point is to show the cuteness of a Maltese, even without long hair or professional grooming.

[edit] Weight of Maltese

The weight of 15# or 8 kg is considered way above standard in all the different kennel clubs. The Maltese is a Toy dog and Toy dogs should generally be under 10# or 4.6 kg. A 15# Maltese probably has Bichon Frisé or Miniature Poodle in its bloodlines. maltmomma

I again changed back the weight to a more standard weight that is considered more accurate. maltmomma 17:25, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maltese biting

Maltese are a very gentle breed of dog and were once called Spaniel Gentle. If a Maltese does bite, it's because it was provoked or taught. Generally the breed is not a biting type. I left in information about biting but I don't think it is really relevent. maltmomma

If you have good info on this, please change the article. I suspect that some info gets into these articles based on one person's experience with one dog. Elf | Talk 16:45, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I am gathering information and will add it. Where do you suggest I put the sources? maltmomma

In a section titled "References". There seems to be a push to have references for all articles. Elf | Talk 20:07, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I want to make it as accurate as possible and will add a resource section with the information. maltmomma

When my mother got a Maltese, she chose the breed specifically because all her reading on the topic said that Maltese dogs are so gentle with children, you have to be careful -- not that the dog will hurt the child, but that the child will hurt the dog! This has been true in my experience of Maleteses. My mom's dog, for instance, will let my nephews torture him, and hardly even barks at them. If you go to http://www.americanmaltese.org/amabreedinfo.htm and skim down to "Temperment" that'll back up what I'm saying. Lorettagrace

[edit] Winter Nose

I replaced the material that the anonymous user 149.63.96.145 removed for no apparent reason; it's a well-known issue with the Maltese breed and is considered pertinent information. maltmomma 17:23, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyrighted text

Parts of this article have been taken verbatum from various sites, such as [1], [2] (from a book) and [3]. Very little seems original to the article. Please consider rewriting the article in your own words (rather than simply taking them from other sources).

Mel "MelSkunk" Smith 2 July 2005 04:51 (UTC)

Hi, I did not take the information from these sites. I don't know about anyone else here. The first site, I've never heard of. The second site quoted the same references that I gave at the bottom of this article and the third is the standard given by the AKC that is used everywhere. maltmomma July 2, 2005 12:37 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Maltese Owners

I have never heard of Rose Wilder Lane owning a Maltese dog. I have a rather long compilation of famous owners and have never come across her name in my research. I Googled it and was unable to make a hit. Can the anon. editor point to where we can find this information? If not, after a time, I will remove it until we can find info. to substantiate this. Maltmomma ^(chat) 02:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, we were discussing it here and had decided to get rid of lists like this, they don't help the article at all. If someone owns a maltese, put that bit of info in the person's article, not the maltese article. - Trysha ^(talk) 03:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Trysha. Maltmomma ^(chat) 03:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm having second, or maybe third, thoughts about this whole thing. See addition to discussion mentioned above. Elf | Talk 05:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I would like to know if Malteses are good for asthma.

[edit] History/Origins

A couple of websites mention that early/proto- Malteses were used for rodent control, with the implication that the original value was this task. Is it OK to put the web addresses here? I mention this because most sources imply the dog's value was its cuteness. Certainly my own experience (original research?) is that my bitch is very keen to despatch mice and rats! Gordon | Talk, 16 April 2006 @ 12:00 UTC

I've modified like anomimal user the origin in Infobox to Malta in Central Mediterranean region (Italy)... reading Fci standards,IMHO it seems more correct it:User:Brodo --83.184.35.129 10:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the anecdote about "Snobal" until Summerdog12 cares to supply a valid verification. Gordon | Talk, 14 May 2006 @ 12:10 UTC

[edit] Call for Cleanup

Ummm... OK, this is not deathless prose here. OTH, what's so horrible about it? Gordon | Talk, 5 June 2006 @05:45 UTC

[edit] New picture

I added a picture of a maltese that i think is adorable and speaks well for the breed. I added it before but it got deleted. If someone has a reason why it should be deleted please tell me. Thanks --Tobyw87 20:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted by a vandal 207.216.4.215 who removed the whole section. As far as your picture goes -- and it is superb! -- make sure it is not subject to any copyright. It should be in the public domain, see WP:IUP for a good overview. Gordon | Talk, 22 July 2006 @12:45 UTC

[edit] Needs to be more objective

A picture with the Maltese with text underneath stated it was "adorable", this doesn't sound very encyclopedic to me because what is adorable or not is subjective. I did keep the picture though even though it doesn't really express any idea, but it is damn cute. 1607m4dsk1llz 04:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "White dog?"

Um, isn't this phrased a little odd? "A small breed of white dog?" That suggests white dog is a species in itself. Shouldn't it be a "small white breed of dog" or "a small white dog breed?" Dead men's bells 18:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

As it happens, white dogs are odd. They aren't actually albino, but white is an absence of colour which is unusual in the canine world -- sufficiently unusual that they can be taken as a "type", regardless of size. You are correct in that we cannot talk of (for example) black dogs in the same way. As it happens, Malteses weren't always pure white: it is said that in the south of France you can still find parti-colour Maltese. The white is the result of intense selective breeding over several centuries at least.

I was going to edit the main article to "correct" the oddity, but in this case it can stand, simply because it is an oddity. Gordon | Talk, 13 August 2006 @10:57 UTC

[edit] Easily injured?

"Because of their size, Maltese dogs are not a good choice for families with small children because they can be easily injured."

Who can be easily injured? The Maltese or the small children?

The dogs can be injured, Not the children. Puplover4 @ 2:51 PM December 14th

[edit] Article Name/Move

Shouldn't this be Maltese (dog)? The breed is called "maltese" not "moltese dog". It used to be there but somebody moved it and now it can't be moved back except by an admin. Are there any admins around?--WilliamThweatt 01:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)