Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:E. Brown/Hurricane Gordon rant

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The result of the debate was delete. >Radiant< 10:25, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:E. Brown/Hurricane Gordon rant

Wikipedia is not a soapbox; Wikipedia is not a memorial, and Wikipedia is not your free hosting service. This violates WP:NOT three ways, and contains attack language against the WMO too (but it's only a sentence or two, so it's probably not speediable). No reason to allow nonsense like this to stay on Wikipedia. Strong delete. – Chacor 01:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, given the WP:NOT violations. --Coredesat 01:39, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• Have you notified Mr/s. Brown? Maybe you should talk to them first. -- Chris is me 06:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The user whose subpage this is has already been notified of the MFD. --Coredesat 00:11, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. While the userpage policy states that we cannot have extensive non-Wikipedia-related discussion, this seems to fall well short of extensive (which that policy elsewhere describes as "more than a couple of pages"). I guess that takes care of the not a free web host thing. WP:NOT doesn't currently include anything about memorials, and in any case that The memorials clause doesn't seem terribly relevant to a short rant in userspace. WP:NOT a soapbox applies specifically to articles and "encyclopedic content," which this is not and does not pretend to be. -- Visviva 16:24, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Memorials fall under "indiscriminate collection of information". – Chacor 17:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Aha, don't know how I missed that the first time. But it still doesn't seem terribly relevant, since this is a) within the limits set by userpage policy, and b) not so much a memorial as a rant... In any case, as I read it, the point of the not-a-memorial policy is primarily to exclude articles on non-notable dead people. I don't think there's any question that the subject of this rant is amply encyclopedic, although since this isn't an encyclopedic page that's probably immaterial. -- Visviva 16:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Did you read the bottom? "Fuck WMO; those whining bureaucrats. They don't respect the dead unless they're overflowing with money to spend on advance warning systems. They don't give a fuck about Haiti or it's poverty.... fuck those stupid fucking desk rats..." it's not just a memorial. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 23:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
    • Not to be pedantic, but the attack page guideline defines an attack page as one which has as its sole purpose attacking/disparaging a person or group. The attackish language can be removed without deleting the page. -- Visviva 16:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Wikipedia is not a memorial and attacks are unacceptable, regardless whether it's in userspace or article space, this page breaks both rules. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete as attack page. Wikipedia isn't here to be a host for hostile rants. WP:CIVIL applies in all namespaces. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 23:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• Eh, Keep it for now. Better for us to let a Wikipedian vent in the userspace than for them to have to carry that when they edit. -- Chris is me 14:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Better for him not to do so on Wikipedia at all. - SpLoT | '07 _(*C*+u+g) 16:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete. It's in a small part of the userspace (as in not on his main page). Sure, it's soapboxy, but very few will read it where it is. Doesn't hurt anyone too much, but better to get rid of it I guess. This one was a hard one though. --Wizardman 04:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete soapbox, and civil. this isn't the place, a free web site would be a better place. this is an encyclopedia here...ST47Talk 19:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom; although I feel sorry for the editor in a way. Yuser31415 03:37, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Sorry Eric. Hurricanehink (talk) 21:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Ral315 (talk) 08:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Unless Eric can put this somehow into Hurricane Gordon without breaking WP:NPOV/WP:V. Apologies, I can see you feel strongly about this. Just H 20:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.