Talk:N3 road

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[edit] The name

M3? N3? Which is it? There's no explanation on the changing terminology in this article. --Jfruh 17:01, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

The N3 road is being extended to become the M3 motorway.

I think the article is reasonably clear, the first sentence refers to the N3 as being a national primary route. In the nomenclature of Irish roads, this gives it the N prefix. It then goes on to say that the route would become the "M3 motorway", the change from N to M reflects this change from "National Primary" to "Motorway".

It's worse than that. The overall route remains a National Primary Route, regardless of Motorway designations on parts or all of it. Even the M50 motorway around Dublin (which was only ever built as Motorway) was legislated for as the N50.

The Roads in Ireland article deals with the broader topic however. For this article it suffices to discuss the N3 road (as it is entirely designated as present) and refer to the upgrade/bypass of part of the route to become the M3 motorway (which will on road signage displace some existing N3 signage).

zoney ♣ talk 08:17, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stub?

I'm taking out the stub marker. It's only a road, so how much more do we need before it becomes an article? If anybody disagrees, feel free to put it back in. jlang 12:34, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

I think this article needs some revision as it is biased against the routing of the M3 motorway and does not discuss the economic and social impact of not having proper motorway infrastructure through this part of Meath.

The article doesn't/didn't argue against the need to have a motorway, and I think it's unnecessary that it provides arguments in favour. This is specifically about the *route* chosen, i.e. through and not around the valley. zoney ♣ talk 22:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Not sure what point you're making. Should the pros and cons be deleted? Signor Eclectic 22:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources needed

Verifiable sources are needed if statements relating to route congestion are to be retained. Ferg2k 05:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps they'd be nice, but a trip to the N3 any weekday morning is enough to verify the statement. It is a fact that the route is narrow winding country road from Meath to the start of the Clonee bypass dual carriageway. Hence why the M3 is planned, and is going to be built in spite of objections, it being close to Hill of Tara, etc. In 2001 traffic regularly built up (i.e. actual jam, not just heavy traffic) from the Clonee bypass to the M50 junction; several kilometers of two lane dual carriageway. It would be worse now in 2006.

I'm removing the template but leaving the citation needed bits. The facts are not in question, though references for them would of course be good.

zoney ♣ talk 14:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Added the main pertinant reference for the sake of completeness. It's not exactly in question though; it's sucking life from several thousand people in Meath right now, and as I said, you can go take a gawk and laugh at the trapped cars if you really wish. The N3 from Clonee to Meath has not been the subject of any significant previous upgrades - it does not even have hard shoulders for most of the route. The EIS at least states this in the observation of the current situation. zoney ♣ talk 14:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)