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I propose we rename this page from biotheology to neurotheology. A quick google test yeilds 10,700 for neurotheology and 1,210 for biotheology.--Nectarflowed 09:27, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Done. Loremaster 14:46, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Franco Rol's neurotheology

I removed the section on Franco Rol & the European Society of NeuroTheology (SENT): a google search for the phrase in quotes yielded less than ten results. It is not widespread enough to be included in an encyclopedia article.--Nectarflowed (talk) 06:59, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pseudoscience?

"Some of these uses, according to the mainstream scientific community, qualify as pseudoscience"

Similarly, since atrologers use astronomy in ways that qualify as pseudoscience, we should include astronomy in the pseudoscience category. --Memenen 06:07, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I have recategorized neurotheology as a protoscience rather than a pseudoscience. Loremaster 19:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
I agree. This article focuses on the scientific uses for which it is most widely known (e.g. the Newsweek article). --Nectar T 23:01, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
I hope I missed irony or context here. When astrologers use astronomy they do Scientific misconduct to make the protoscience astrology look like the science that astonomy is but it is not so they downgrade astology to Junk science. Astronomy is science that originated in astrology. Its problem is the general assumption that the laws of nature are universal and that its objects of study are so far and big that reproduction and verification are more difficult. The physical influence of all planets on the Earth is statistically insignificant. The spiritual influence of planets on Earth is pseudoscience. --Ollj 20:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC) Category_talk:Paranormal --Ollj 20:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

If it walks like a duck, quaks like a duck and if it has "-theology", "religion", "spirituality" and"placebo" written on it it is religion or Spirituality! If it wants to be a science but fails in verification it is also pseudoscience! (definitions and categorisations) --Ollj 20:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV?

"altered states of consciousness which are the basis for many religious beliefs and behaviors"

Is this a neutral point of view? I'm sure many religions would not see altered states of consciousness as the basis for beliefs and behavious - this could be changed to "seen as the basis"

or "seen as contributing to many religious beliefs and behaviors" --Memenen 23:28, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense

>>If it walks like a duck, quaks like a duck and if it has "-theology", "religion", "spirituality" and"placebo" written on it it is religion or Spirituality! If it wants to be a science but fails in verification it is also pseudoscience! (definitions and categorisations) --Ollj 20:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

This is nonsense. You should take a look at the MRI scan of brains that are doing praying and meditation. Also, placebo effect can be regulated by injections of chemicals. This is science in progress. Please read the science news more regularly. (By your definition, the history of religion will be pseudo-history and the philosophy of theology will be pseudo-philosophy)

[edit] Books, journals

(2000-12-20) in Jensine Andresen and Robert K C Forman: Cognitive models and spiritual maps: interdisciplinary explorations of religious experience (Journal of consciousness studies) [illustrated]. Imprint Academic. ISBN 978-0907845133. 

Tremlin, Todd (2006-03-02). Minds and Gods: the cognitive foundations of religion, E. Thomas Lawson (foreword), USA: Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0195305340. 

[1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.78.116.187 (talk • contribs) 2006-11-21t18:54:33z.

Borg, Jacqueline; Bengt Andrée, Henrik Soderstrom, and Lars Farde (11 2003). "The serotonin system and spiritual experiences". The American journal of psychiatry 160 (11): pp. 1965-1969. PMID: 14594742. Retrieved on 2007-01-21.  -- Jeandré, 2007-01-21t03:57z

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