User:Nickj/Link Suggester/Don't link to

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Please use page if you come across links that probably never should be suggested. So if one or more suggested links made you think "That's rubbish! Who would ever want to link to that?", or "I wish it wouldn't suggest links to X, because they're usually going to be wrong", then you've come to the right place!

Here's what to do:

• To the list below, add the name of the article that shouldn't be linked to. Please make the name of the article a wiki link (this ensures that I get the correct spelling and capitalization), and add a very quick sentence about why it's bad, and then sign it.

Then:

• I'll get it added to the list of exclusions, and then shift it down into the list of done things (so that you know and I know it's been done).
• Very occasionally, if I'm not sure about something, I may ask for more information.

Tips:

• If a suggested link was bad, and is the name of a book, a band, a movie, a song, a magazine, or an album, then just write something like "From page Australia: The Early Days (album)", and sign it. This is because books / bands / movies / songs / albums / magazines often have names occur in everyday English, and which are inappropriate links.

Note that if this page isn't what you were looking for, then there are other feedback pages:

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[edit] To-do: List of things to stop linking to

• Please add new things here (just include link to page the suggestions were for, a list of links + very brief reason why they're bad, and sign) -- Nickj 00:42, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• "The commonwealth" can mean the commonwealth (ex-british empire), or the federal goverment of australia (and i presume the fed gov of some other ex-british countries). I also think that there is also a group of islands in the ?pacific? called the commonwealth of nations or something, but im not sure on that one. The bellman 11:15, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)

• From suggestions for Apollo 11, don't link to Into the Unknown (album), or Brotherhood of Man (music band). -- Nickj (t) 23:09, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• From suggestions for Adolf Eichmann, don't link to four hundred (usually bad to link to numbers), or Family Business (name of a board game). -- Nickj (t) 23:21, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• From suggestions for Albert Speer, don't link to seven hundred or eight hundred (numbers are usually bad to link to; Need to check I've also excluded two hundred, three hundred, five hundred, six hundred, and nine hundred); Also don't link to In the Year 2000 (TV sketch), or On War (name of a book). -- Nickj (t) 23:21, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)
• From Adolph Hitler and others: Please don't suggest links to "The Germans"—it's a TV episode, not appropriate in most contexts. Neutrality^talk 04:57, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)
• From Apartheid - incorrect or over-general links suggested: election of 1948, National government, Black man, eighty-seven, modern weapons, Deputy Minister, The Truth, and Member States. -- Nickj (t) 22:44, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• From suggestions for Apple Computer, don't link to The State of the Art (Science fiction collection) or The Apple (Star Trek episode). -- 19:02, 4 May, 2005 (UTC)
• From abbot, don't link to well-ordered - in abbot it's a well-ordered court, but well-ordered is mathematical.
• From fascism - The Common Good, Class Warfare, Even Worse, Wikipedia:List of controversial issues, well-defined. -- Nickj (t) 06:04, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
• From Albedo - natural environment, and indirect effect, which were being used in a generic or literal sense ; possibly also weather station -- Nickj (t) 01:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC) , via Deco.
• From User:LinkBot/suggestions/Abdication - IMHO, there isn't much use to link the city and "public domain" in the/any references section. -- User:Docu
  • From User:LinkBot/suggestions/Abdication - don't link to The Royal Family, Supreme Power, Public domain. Will probably keep the city location link in the references section, not because I agree with making these types of links (I don't), but because I'm trying to keep the logic of the suggester as dead simple as possible. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 00:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
• From User:LinkBot/suggestions/Axiom_of_choice -- don't backlink CHOICE to this article, as this is a mathematical article and none of the back links are in context.--Prosfilaes 10:04, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I suspect that there was previously a CHOICE → Axiom of choice redirect. Assuming this is correct, that redirect has since been deleted, so in future this link will no longer be suggested. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 04:18, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
• From Albert Schweitzer, do not link to Love Life. Also if can avoid linking to anything with [[Category:Musicals]] or {{tvseries-stub}} or [[Category:???? albums]] or [[Category:American plays]] or [[category:books]] or [[Category:Comedy television series]], that could prevent some problems of inappropriate links. -- Nickj (t) 05:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
• From Alexander Graham Bell: I don't think links to Family Man, which is an album, are going to be appropriate most of the time. moink 05:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
• The Royal Family was linking to an article on a stage play. I have since moved the stage play to The Royal Family (play) and turned The Royal Family into a redirect for Royal family and have created Royal Family (disambiguation) to handle the other uses of the term, such as the novel and TV series. 23skidoo 17:52, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Already done: List of things will no longer link to

• Please don't suggest links to square kilometer. These are sometimes used with the area to link to the appropriate order of magnitude list. Like 12,532 square kilometers. Rmhermen 20:32, Nov 3, 2004 (UTC)
• Linkbot suggests linking the phrase "Whose Line" to comedy show Whose Line Is It Anyway?. I have not seen a single instance where that link would have made sense :P -- Ferkelparade π 11:38, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• From the archaeology page: "the early days" was linked to The Early Days, which is an album and "well-founded" was linked to well-founded relation, which is a maths term (I discovered!). --G Rutter 12:30, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• From the Alchemy page: Academic field, cultural history, old age, melting pot, take off are useless for Alchemy, and unlikely to be useful links anywhere (too general).
  • I've kept melting pot, hope that's OK, as it may be OK in some other situations.
• The beyond hope link: WTF? The bot suggested a piped link to H.O.P.E., Hackers Of Planet Earth! :-D A piped link? Greetings, Link Suggester Bot, are you by any chance a member of Hackers Of Planet Earth? Consider yourself outed!--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen (talk)]] 14:22, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • LinkBot has been busted!
• Province of Canada -- Many articles contain text like "...is a province of Canada" or "...is the province of Canada with the highest production of" ... However, the article Province of Canada refers to a colony by that name that existed from 1840 to 1867. Most often, "province of Canada" should link to Provinces and territories of Canada. - Montréalais 17:37, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• From the Anarchism page: use of force (not very useful), Criminal Justice Act (generic name for those acts of parliament), Call for help (911 calls), Consenting Adults (movie), Species Traitor (magazine name), Profane Existence (band), and Alternative Press (music magazine) weren't useful (and probably wouldn't be useful suggestions in most situations) -- Nickj 22:20, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• From the Australia page: a level (almost never useful in that context), The Early Days (also never useful in that context) - Aaron Hill 23:09, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
• From the Adobe page: Example Scrabble tournament game should not be suggested as a backlink; the words in it do not denote anything, they are just scrabble words. JesseW 01:37, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• From Alphabet: for languages (not appropriate, and won't be in most situations). -- Nickj 01:38, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• From both Geography of Angola and Alberta: Far North is not appropriate. It's an administrative region of New Zealand. [[User:Grutness|Grutness ^talk ]] 06:55, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
• Fianna Fáil -- probably politically unwise to suggest linking Amhrán na bhFiann, as it would be associating the Irish National Anthem with one particular political party unjustifiably. The normal translations of "Fianna Fáil" as the name of the political party, and in the first line of the anthem are different anyway. -- Arwel 15:13, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Would it be OK to keep this one in? The reason is there are 10 links to Fianna Fáil, and whilst this one is wrong, the other 9 look to be about a political party:

mysql> select source_link, before_text, dest_link, after_text from suggested_link where dest_label = "Fianna Fail";
+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| source_link                       | before_text                                                    | dest_link   | after_text                                                      |
+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Amhrán_na_bhFiann                 | ...ly the English rhyming scheme.  ===Irish version===  :Sinne | Fianna Fáil | ...                                                             |
| Oath_of_Allegiance_(Ireland)      | ... but the perspective formed on it.   When de Valera founded | Fianna Fáil |  in 1926, he and his party, though agreeing to contest elect... |
| Irish_presidential_election,_1966 | ...on de Valera|President de Valera]] reluctantly agreed under | Fianna Fáil |  party pressure to seek a second term. [[Fine Gael]] decided... |
| Irish_presidential_election,_1973 | ...Valera]] constitutionally barred from seeking a third term, | Fianna Fáil |  sought to get former [[Tánaiste]] [[Frank Aiken]] to run fo... |
| Irish_presidential_election,_1974 | ...d be the fifth president of Ireland. However the opposition | Fianna Fáil |  withdrew from the agreement, thinking that it was being set... |
| Irish_presidential_election,_2004 | ...on [[11 November]].  ==Party positions==  ===Fianna Fáil=== | Fianna Fáil |  supported its former candidate President McAleese in her bi... |
| John_Bruton                       | ...nishment of the electorate, who had voted for Labour to get | Fianna Fáil |  out of power, Labour chose to enter into a new coalition ''... |
| Irish_Republican_Socialist_Party  | ...ewspaper. Like almost all political parties in Ireland from | Fianna Fáil |  to Labour and Sinn Fein the IRSP claims the legacy of [[Jam... |
| 1983_in_Ireland                   | ...tion of [[Charles Haughey]] as leader fails after a 12 hour | Fianna Fáil |  meeting. ...                                                   |
| Irish_Press                       | ...de Valera]] and his family, and as a consequence, supported | Fianna Fáil |  consistantly throughout its life....                           |
+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
10 rows in set (5.29 sec)

All the best, -- 00:19, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Yes, the other references are all to the political party. -- Arwel 00:30, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Completely nuts to link to the political party Fianna Fáil! Nearly as nuts as them usurping that title in the first place. zoney ♣ talk 18:34, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
    • I have no prior knowledge of who Fianna Fáil are, but clearly they're a source of contention :-) So, I've manually made the 9 links above which seem to be about the political party of that name, and then I've added Fianna Fáil to the list of manual exclusions (so that LinkBot will not suggest links to this in future). I'm hoping that this will be considered an acceptable outcome. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 22:50, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
      • It's not exactly rocket science, Nick! :) Fianna Fáil (Soldiers of Destiny) have been one of the two principal political parties together with Fine Gael in what's now the Republic of Ireland for the last 70 years, and have provided 6 of the 8 Presidents of Ireland (the first one was an all-party nomination, and FF cocked up the campaign of the candidate for 7th president!). These days there's hardly any policy differences between FF and FG, and which party people vote for largely depends on which side they, their dads, or grand-dads supported in the Civil War of 1922-3. The reference in Amhrán na bhFiann is to the mythological Soldiers of Destiny, the references in all the other articles are to the political party who chose the name for themselves later. -- Arwel 23:39, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
        • I suspect the reason you're surprised I didn't know about Fianna Fáil is because you live in the UK (with it's geographical proximity to Ireland), plus because the UK has decent news! Trust me, if you lived in the Australia, and had to watch Australian TV, then you too would probably know almost nothing about Irish politics or the Irish language ;-) Basically, if it doesn't affect Australia, or an Australian, and it's not a really big event, and it's not a "human-interest" story, then (as far as our commercial news here is concerned) it simply does not exist ... sad, but true :-( There are 5 areas that I've consistently noticed that Australia does badly in: the news (much too introverted, UK news is much better), chocolate (over-sweet cheap bland crap, German or Swiss dark chocolate is much better), mayonnaise (over-sweet watery syrupy crap, American or Canadian creamy egg mayonnaise is much better), maple syrup (basically it's imitation flavoured sugar-cane syrup, Canadian stuff is much better), and public transport (shockingly unreliable, frustrating, and slow - even the London tube is much better). Of course, there are plenty of things that more than compensate for these shortcomings, but my point is that I'm a product of my environment, so it would be remarkable if I did know who Fianna Fáil were, rather than that I didn't. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 02:09, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
          • Far better than the canadian/american mayo, is the dutch/nordic stuff. Talk about full of taste. Once you try it, you'll never look back to our aussie mayo, or the yanky stuff. The bellman 11:11, 2005 Jan 7 (UTC)