Talk:On the Personality Cult and its Consequences
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Please don't merge this. Mikkalai, thanks in advance for your effort to summarize it here! BACbKA 13:31, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)BACbKA 17:53, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Mihnea, please find and read the speech before editing. Kruschev 98% put the blame on Stalin in this speech. Mikkalai 16:19, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Izvestia
Having left Russia over 10 years ago, I seem to have forgotten some of the important details, however was it indeed "Izvestija TSeKa" and not "Izvestija sovetov narodnyx deputatov"?
Corresponding clarifications should maybe put not here, rather, the text here should be shortened in favour of adding explanations over at Izvestia, which presently seems to only reflect the current (post-Soviet) Izvestija. What do you folks think? BACbKA 14:27, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- There were both. http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1672771/ Remember: google your best friend. Mikkalai 16:49, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
—==Poland?== I removed an anon addition as dubious:
- In fact, a Polish version could be bought on the streets of Warsaw only a few days after the speech was given.
Who here is a leninist?
Any confirmations? Mikkalai 01:01, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Reaction
I heard on BBC Radio 4 today that the speech was such a shock to those present that some had heart attacks (during the speech?) and others committed suicide afterwards. If someone has a direct source on this it might be good to add to the article. Also more about the general reaction to & consequences of the speech would be good. Ben Finn 14:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- I read something similar on CBC:
- The shock must have been almost beyond imagination. Dmitri Goriunov, the editor of the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper, gobbled five nitroglycerin pills to stave off a heart attack. The head of the Polish Communist party, Boleslaw Beirut, was being treated in Moscow for pneumonia; he read the speech, had a heart attack and died. [1]
- No more authoritative than the BBC report, of course .. --142.242.2.248 15:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Quotes
I added a bunch of quotes from the speech to the article. I hope everyone's okay with this. I did it because the full text of the speech -- which is linked to at the bottom of the page -- is really long; I felt like one needed some concrete quotes to get a real sense of just how shocking this speech must have been at the time, and what an attack on Stalinism it was. Monkey-Man 06:02, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] New Revelations
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz today revealed some of the background of how Israeli intelligence obtained the text of this speech and how it was handled in Israel. See [2]. I'll leave it for someone else to summarise as appropriate. Also note that links to articles in Haaretz go dead after a few weeks so it is not enough to just link to it. --Zero 03:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
- Actually this have been known for quite some time, but this is the first releable account published I know of. This certainly deserves summarizing. mikka (t) 03:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Move to Khruschev's Secret Speech?
If the page is going to open with "commonly known as the Secret Speech" shouldn't we just rename it like that? -- TheMightyQuill 09:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Or just "Secret Speech" please, as this is certainly the main speech associated with that phrase. I'm a little dubious about the current title: books are published under fairly clear titles, but speeches don't tend to have them explicitly. Maybe when this was printed later it was given "On the Personality Cult and its Consequences" as a heading, but I don't think that's the best title for the article. It's worth noting that this article appears to be titled "Secret Speech" in its versions in other languages. 129.234.4.1 16:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
