Talk:Order of the Garter

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Contents 1 Queen of Denmark 2 Birthyears? 3 PoW as KC / number of knights? 4 FA Tag 5 post-nominal letters 6 Your link in footnote #3 doesn't work

[edit] Queen of Denmark

I understand that the official title of the Queen of Denmark is "Denmark's Queen", but is that her official style in English? john 22:02, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Well, the situation is as follows: Until 1972, the official title of the Sovereign was, "AB, af Guds Nåde Konge til Danmark, de Venders og Goters, Hertug til Slesvig, Holsten, Stormarn, Ditmarsken, Lauenborg og Oldenborg," in English, "AB, by God's Grace King of Denmark, of the Wends and Goths, Duke of Schleswig, Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, Lauenburg and Oldenburg." In 1972, the title changed to "AB, af Guds Nåde Danmarks Dronning," in Engish, "AB, by God's Grace Denmark's Queen" (the current monarch being a lady). See also an alt.talk.royalty thread. I would think that, prior to 1972, the appropriate English style might be HM The King of Denmark, but would now be HM Denmark's Queen. However, I am not confident. -- Emsworth 22:53, Mar 21, 2004 (UTC)

The official style of Queen Elizabeth is "of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland Queen". I'm not sure how significant we should consider such things. Certainly she is colloquially known as "the Queen of Denmark". john 00:35, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Birthyears?

Is it useful to have the birthyears of the knights? Wouldn't their year of appointment make more sense (and explain the order of the list, keeping zealous alphabetizers away)? (I realize that appointment-year is already listed on the historical list of knights.) Doops 22:22, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I think having the year of appointment would be a good idea, though I think that it should perhaps be in addition to, rather than in replacement of, the year of birth.

James F. (talk) 18:09, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] PoW as KC / number of knights?

I believe the Prince of Wales is technically regarded as a Knight Companion. Don't know why though. [anonymous]

• If that is so, it's because the Prince of Wales is automatically a member (whereas all the other royal knights and ladies were appointed because the Queen felt like it). So he's not really supernumerary! Doops 23rd April

OK, today somebody moved the Prince up out of the knights section, which I have to say I don't think I agree with: since, even though he's automatically a member and not counted among the 24, he wear's a knight's robe and is basically a companion of the order. The prelate, registrar, usher, etc. aren't really companions -- and they don't wear a knight's robe. So I like the way I had the prince earlier: listed as an unnumbered companion. Doops 17:27, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I confess; t'was I. I think that it looks rather poor to have the PoW listed along with the Knights Companion, especially if it causes us to list in two different ways (hmm, directions).

The article itself says that there are 26 members, and then says that two of them are the monarch and PoW, and then there are 24 KsC (yes, I know, it's a paraphrase), which (to my mind, at least) would say that, were we to list the PoW in the KC section, we should probably list the monarch there, too; this would seem... odd, really (apart from anything else, they're Companions to the monarch, AIUI...).

Thoughts?

James F. (talk) 18:09, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I just went back into the history and looked at the mixed-style list: and I realised that it look

[edit] FA Tag

I added a second FA tag to the article. The one at the bottom did not seem to create the star icon at the top right corner. Adding the tag to the top of the article made the icon show up. Not sure why.. I have the question in to the Template Talk. Morphh 01:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] post-nominal letters

Just wanted to note that I have added the post-nominal letters CD after the names of the Princess Royal and Princess Alexandra as they both hold the Canadian Forces Decoration Anne in 1982 (I think she got it during the repatriation of the constitution) and Princess Alexandra for being honorary colonel-in-chief of some Canadian regiment. I have not found any definate proof the The Earl of Wessex has gotten the CD yet, although he is colonel-in-chief of a couple of regiment in Saskatchewan, for which he was made an honorary member of the Saskatchewan Order of Merit Dowew

[edit] Your link in footnote #3 doesn't work

I picked on the link to find out what "Honi soit qui mal y pense" means, but I got an error. Can you fix it, please ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Not easy being green (talk • contribs) 16:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

Fixed. The motto is actually translated in the second paragraph of the article. Dr pda 17:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks ! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Not easy being green (talk • contribs) 20:42, 11 December 2006 (UTC).