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Byzantine diplomat and scholar Michael Psellos in the 11th century: "They are more difficult to fight and harder to subdue than any other people . . .They wear no breastplates, greaves or helmets, and carry no shields or swords. Their only weapon and sole means of defence is the spear . . .They build no protective palisades or ditches around their camps. In one dense mass, encouraged by sheer desperation, they shout their thunderous war-cries and hurl themselves pell-mell upon their adversaries and push them back, pressing against themselves in solid blocks, like towers, then pursuing them and slaying them without mercy. If on the other hand the opposing force withstands their assault, they turn about and seek safety in flight (Norwich p. 335) . . ." http://www.geocities.com/egfroth1/Pechenegs.htm

Message for Adam Bishop ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pechenegs&diff=73043337&oldid=73000533. 1)Wusun is the old chinese pronunciation of Ashina aka 突厥 (Gokturks). 3)The Petchenegs appear after the Western Gokturk Khaganate collapsed. The Khazar rulers were from Ashina. Did my report condense these facts too much? I am sorry. Please re-write.Kaz 01:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually I thought I was reverting the note that "Bosniak" is related to "Pecheneg", which seems far-fetched, to say the least. Adam Bishop 01:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Not Pecheneg but Besenyo. That is a common Hungarian belief, though perhaps Bosnians could get upset about that. :-( Kaz 02:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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