User talk:Plainsong

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[edit] Matt Ouimet

I would just like to take the oppurtunity to say thanks for what you did to the above article, it really made a big difference to the quality. You have a good way with words!--Speedway 20:31, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anaheim, California

Thanks for adding to the Anaheim, California page. Are you a resident?

I made a few changes to the content you added. The Richard Nixon freeway was never built, except for a section in Marina Del Rey. Were you thinking of CA-90 (Imperial Highway)? Also, Euclid and Magnolia are both Streets, since they're north-south. I took out the links for Beach and Harbor, since no articles currently exist and the links would have to be disambiguated anyway (they're far from the only streets of those names in the world). —Morven 00:28, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Syllabification

Don't worry about it. I notice you're relatively new to Wikipedia, so welcome. :-). It's been my experience that trying to be clever never quite works out the way it was intended on Wikipedia articles, and kind of detracts from the "serious" tone we try to set. Not that we have to be stilted or stodgy, but too light of a tone and we risk being not taken seriously. Anyway, keep up the good contributions and if you get caught up in any Wikipedia politics, don't let it scare you off. Cheers! P.S. it's easier to figure out who to respond to if you sign your comments using ~~~~. Nohat 07:08, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Literate

Yeah, I didn't think you were trying to be insulting. You're totally (heh, 'totally', akin here to 'like' elsewhere) right to be more specific than my generic 'some', but I couldn't think of a better way to put it off hand. Maybe there's a way to indicate proscriptivist tendencies of particular groups without stating their positive or negative qualities? -Seth Mahoney 01:53, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] southern vs. Southern

I'd appreciate it if you could elaborate on your explanation of "Southern" being "idiomatic." The Associated Press stylebook indicates the proper way to describe a region, assuming it is not discrete in a political or other sense, is to leave the first letter of the qualifer uncapitalized. So while southern California should be spelled with a lower-case "s," South Carolina should be spelled with a capital "s." Just because many people often make the mistake of throwing a capital "s" onto southern California does not mean we should disregard the proper way to portray the term. (unsigned -- Curps 05:51, 21 April 2005 (UTC))

MOS:CL governs Wikipedia's use of capital letters, not the Associated Press stylebook. Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style, regions that are proper nouns, including widely known expressions such as Southern California, start with a capital letter. -- Jreferee 16:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] California stub categories

I note you've created two new stub templates. Did you realise that stub types should normally be cleared by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting before creation? That way they can be vetted to check that there are a viable number of stubs (at least 60-100) and that the category does not cross the existing stub hierarchy before the stub is created. In the case of the two California stubs it looks okay, but if you're planning to make any more categories, we'd like to know first! Also, there was a discussion at WP:WSS a couple of months ago where it was decided that individual US state stubs should only be created if there is a specific WikiProject for them - otherwise we'd suddenly get 50 new stub categories overnight, plus 50 more geo-stub categories! Is there such a project for California?

One more thing - the single most important thing a stub template must have is a category. Otherwise, you're just consigning the stubs marked into the void, probably never to be seen by the editors who should be seeing them. I have created stub categories for the templates to make sure they go somewhere they can be found... Oh, and if you're interested in helping sort stubs, we're always looking for new members of the project! Grutness|^hello? 11:33, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Iraq article

There is an ongoing discussion and vote on the talk page (now, because of your move, at Talk:Iraq War of 2003), about how the article should be titled. Several editors are proposing alternatives, addressing the pros and cons of each, etc. If you think that the title 2003 Invasion of Iraq is inappropriate, you should participate in that process, rather than unilaterally moving the article yourself. I've asked the admins to undo the move, pending the results of the discussion and polling on the talk page. Because this is a subject on which many people have strong opinions, it would be better for you to express your opinions by commenting on the talk page. Any move should be deferred until the process is completed. JamesMLane 03:56, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

No problem. Good luck with your discussion.--Plainsong 03:59, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I voted and I think I changed it back to how it was before. Thanks for the heads up.Plainsong 04:10, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Here's another heads up: Don't do cut-and-paste moves! I know you were just trying to change it back to the way it was before, but I'm afraid you made the problem worse. Now the article text is at one title and its history is at another title. To make a simple, uncontroversial move, you should use the "Move this page" function. If that won't work, see the discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves about how to proceed. (An admin can do the move so that the history doesn't get fouled up.) I'll see about getting someone to fix this. It's a bit of bother for an admin but no disaster; still, please remember: Don't do cut-and-paste moves! JamesMLane 04:37, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] COTW Project

You voted for Culture of Ancient Rome, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

[edit] "The" OC

Good call with that. I am so sick and tired of hearing that!

[edit] Redirect fix

Hey, thanks for fixing that redirect I hastily made at Wikipedia:Rules. I didn't notice the mistake because I had transcluded the page!-) Wipe 18:46, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] L. Paul Bremer Article

Did you intend to mean Bremer had direct authority over coalition troops. One such press release seem to indicate differently. Reference: http://www.cpa-iraq.org/pressconferences/Pressconference23AugwithQAs.html

Ariele 21:31, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Area codes

This discussion seems to have run its course, so I have closed it and drawn conclusions. Could you please briefly look at the conclusions and note on the talk page if you agree? Thanks, Radiant_* 09:38, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] W. Mark Felt

Salve!
I nominated W. Mark Felt as a WP:FAC. As you commented on the article's talk page, I'd appreciate your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/W. Mark Felt. PedanticallySpeaking 14:57, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Iraq War

Nice idea to move the article (Ive done it before myself). We and those of a similar mind should certainly see to it that others do not revert it to its previous dissected state. Claims of POV or NPOV seem to be moot on the issue, and without an arbitrating body to decide on the neutrality of the title, its rather an issue of making the change and sticking to it. A WP:RFC may be a good idea as well. -St|eve 08:45, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for adding Doris Allen (politician)

Thank you for adding the Doris Allen (politician) stub. As you may have noticed, I am working on building out of a list of speakers of the California State Assembly. I have done a couple of small modifications to your stub, so thanks for giving me a place to start. Mike Dillon 01:37, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE:California

About the picture you added as an important city or town,coolceasar might tell you hes going to delete it. I did the same thing, with hollywood, he said its not concidered a city and other things. He might tell you that O.C is a county and its not important and blah blah blah, I think it would be O.K if you put Anaheim instead..::Imdaking::. ^{Tlk | E-M 01:32:07, 2005-09-08 (UTC)}

Didn't I tell you, if you check california's article history, he added "OC is not a county", This guy thinks he's the only one that knows or lives in california..::Imdaking::. ^{Tlk | E-M 20:48:33, 2005-09-08 (UTC)}

[edit] Viacom (1986)

I don't think it's wise to move the Viacom (1986) article I created to one that indicates the year 1971. The prior Viacom was not founded in 1971: it was founded in 1986. There was some sort of previous instance of the company that existed from 1971-1986, but I haven't yet researched the details of it or why it was refounded. Nonetheless, I expect that there may be a separate article in the future covering the 1971 instance. That's why I created it as "Viacom (1986)", and I used only the founding year in the title to follow the convention of Westinghouse Electric Corporation (1886) and Westinghouse Electric Corporation (1998), the latter company of which is still in existence, and both of which are highly intertwined with the CBS-Viacom transactions. Jkatzen 05:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

It'd help your fellow editors understand what you're up to if you'd use the edit summaries. When I see a chunk of text deleted without comment I tend to assume it was a mistake or an unhelpful edit. Cheers, -Will Beback 07:00, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North American area codes

Uncle G's major work 'bot is about to move another ... er ... small hill. But a consensus is required on the naming scheme to be employed. Please review Category:Greek Area Codes, Category:United Kingdom area codes, and Category:North American area codes, and then contribute to the discussion at Talk:North American Numbering Plan#US-centric_area_code_page_titles. Uncle G 21:11, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:AfricanAmerican2.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] Image:AfricanAmerican.jpg listed for deletion

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[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:CurtPringle.jpg

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[edit] Abuse of fellow Wikipedians will not be tolerated

You added an abusive comment at User talk:DVD R W. It is suggested that you take steps to correct this. You are hereby warned by an administrator that such abuse will not be tolerated. Pollinator 20:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

I have blocked you for a cool-off period to get over your frustration. You cannot demean other Wikipedians, then excuse yourself on a basis of culture. Your "apology" was insincere and you need to reflect a bit on Wiki-etiquette (or maybe etiquette in general, if this is your "norm" in life). When you come back, please be ready to resolve disputes in an orderly, courteous manner. Pollinator 20:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Dude, get a sense of humor. The cultural norm bit and insincere apology was a joke. The bottom line is this: no one--not you, not the DVD guy--asked for an apology. I left him a lighthearted message saying I understood why he felt compelled to delete my contribution, and that should have been the end of it. Now you escalate the matter by blocking me? If you're not willing to unblock me, please tell me whom I can appeal to, because if anything strikes me as "patent nonsense", it's this. Plainsong 05:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I think there might be some miscommunication here. I found this on the talk page of the DVD admin: "I do not know you, but I am the admin who placed the warning on User talk:Plainsong, after I happened upon his/her comment here. On the basis of his/her insincere apology and notification that (s)he regularly demeans others, I've placed him/her on a block for a cooling off period for his/her frustration. We don't need loose cannons on Wikipedia, and I'm sorry you had to be the object of his/her attack. Pollinator 21:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)" I'd like to know what you're referring to by "notification that (s)he regularly demeans others", because to be completeley honest, I've never had a problem on this website until now. Perhaps you have me mixed up with someone else?--Plainsong 05:29, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

To add another question for the administrators: under which provision of the Wikipedia blocking policy have I been blocked? I can't find something on here taht would justify it. The closest is, under the section titled "Disruption", "excessive personal attacks". However, even if I concede that my first message was a personal attack, I wouldn't consider that excessive. What is the procedure for appealing a block, anyway? Is it indefinite? Can I apply for readmission in a month, a year? (Although, to be honest, Wikipedia is wearing on my patience; I've been a productive contributor for months, all I tried to do was create an article about an interesting concept I read about, and I end up getting blocked...)--Plainsong 05:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

• Hi, you've been blocked for 24 hours only. I'd take a bit of a break and come back and contribute. Thanks -- Samir धर्म 07:44, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Continuing, after being warned, was "excessive." See: WP:NPA about profanity directed at another user. No "sense of humor" applies to situations where a person doing a responsible thing was attacked and demeaned for it. I am not taking sides in the dispute. You are welcome to disagree and to pursue remedies without being abusive; there are plenty of avenues for such remedies if an admin made a mistake. Your comment that this is your regular style certainly did not help. There is way too much incivility on Wikipedia. Samir has given you good advice. Pollinator 13:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Daly

You have recently created the article Tom Daly. This was deleted in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policies. Please do not re-create the article: if you disagree with the article's deletion, you may ask for a review at Wikipedia:Deletion review. Kimchi.sg 16:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

If you want to appeal the deletion, make a request on Deletion review, in the "Decisions to be reviewed" section. There's no need for me to undelete the text at this point - sysops can still see the text of the deleted article as if it were still around. Kimchi.sg 22:08, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Anaheimdland.jpg

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[edit] Education of -> Education in

I'm OK with "Education in" as long as everyone else is. For my education, howja "move" a page so that all the history came with it?

[edit] FA nomination for California Gold Rush

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[edit] AfD Nomination: Culture of California 1800s to mid 1900s

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[edit] Ronald Kline

I created an article on Bradley Willman, which may have content that could be added into the Ronald Kline article that you created. -- Jreferee 16:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)