User talk:PuzzletChung

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Hi Puzzlet :) I hope you like the place and choose to stay.

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I moved Witold Lutoslawski back because titles don't support special characters like the crossed l. Thanks Dysprosia 12:00, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. --PuzzletChung 10:36, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Kazan

Hi! Could you briefly translate this article to Korean? Thanks. --Untifler 20:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Quarto

Hi Puzzlet,

I saw your note about helping with the newsletter. How would you like to help? We certainly could use translation into Korean, and we need someone to write about what is going on on the ko: wikipedia. Please leave a note at m:Talk:WQ/Team. +sj.+ 01:16, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
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Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Pyeongyang

Hi! I saw your message on Seoul; however I have an unrelated issue and I thought since you are at Korean Wikipedia, I can communicate with you. The Korean Wikipedia at present lists Pyeongyang under the title Pyeongyang teukbyeolsi. However, just as the English article for Pyongyang has mentioned, in North Korea it is actually labelled as "jikhalsi" and a Google search on KCNA, the official agency, confirms it. I don't know enough Korean however to try to communicate with those who worked on the Pyeongyang article over at the Korean Wikipedia, so I was wondering if you could help out? The history there says a user called Caffelice has insisted that the teukbyeolsi designation is correct, and indeed I see your name in the history there too.

For your convenience, here is the section in the English article about the teukbyeolsi/jikhalsi designation.

The city is classified as a Directly Governed City (Chik'alshi), not a Special City as Seoul in South Korea. In fact, the North Korean national newspaper and broadcasting say "Pyongyang Chik'alshi". Some sources, most of them come from South Korea, refer the city as a Special City; however these are the old sources. Moreover, South Korea has corrected the city as a Directly Governed City, according to a South Korean newspaper in 1994.

By the way, I am actually quite convinced that in North Korea, such guyeok names as 용성, 역포 and 낙랑 are actually written as 룡성, 력포 and 락랑 in the North's style of Korean... but I am not really an expert!

Thanks! -- KittySaturn 22:38, 2005 Feb 26 (UTC)

[edit] Gurmukhi

Thanks for editing the Gurmukhi page - it's been in need of a cleanup for a while. Feel free to use info from (http://guca.sourceforge.net/) if you need to. I'll add more when I get time! Sukh 12:56, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

After looking at it more closely, what are all those letters added? They don't seem to be proper transliterations? I see "The ASCII code version of the script is sometimes used." I personally haven't a clue what you mean by this... Sukh 12:58, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm just learning Punjabi language. In searching for references I can use, I found Punjabi-English dictionary web service like this and this. It seems that the sites use ASCII letters that correspond Gurmukhi letters one-by-one. And I think the ASCII version of the writing system is used locally in some sites like here. --Puzzlet Chung 14:13, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see how you're getting confused. What you see as ASCII letters aren't actually ASCII as such! What older sites used to do (before the widespread use of Unicode) is use ASCII with special fonts that turned the Latin letters into Gurmukhi. So in fact, viewers of the site do see Gurmukhi if they have appropriate fonts installed - nobody actually reads the Latin text because it makes no sense. Try downloading the fonts [1] [2] [3] and then viewing the site to see the actual text. I'm going to remove the Latin equivalents on the Gurmukhi page. Sukh 14:51, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah, I see the way I've got confused, the non-Loman fonts. But, if it's another binary expression of Gurmukhi other than Unicode, I still think it is worth mentioning in the article. When you give criteria in Gurmukhi to search engines, you'll probably want to search for both Unicode and alternative version of the text, because they do use both versions of Gurmukhi on the web. Wikipedia article could be a reference to the two expressions. --Puzzlet Chung 07:41, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

There is no point giving the Latin text version because SO many different fonts are used with their own keyboard layout that it is confusing. This has been one of the major problems with Gurmukhi on computers so far - every site wants to use their own font/keyboard layout. I've mentioned that proprietary fonts are used - you are welcome to expand on that. Sukh 12:11, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Puzzlet, can you help me in translating this article in the link [4] about Daemado? I know very little Korean and I was hardly able to understand what they are talking about.

Tan 19:53, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Another request

Hello Puzzlet! The third Wikimedia Quarto is coming out soon; can you help translate it? We have a number of finished sections ready for translation.

Cheers, +sj + 21:07, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Notice board

Hello PuzzletChung! I'm posting here to let you know that there is a new notice board for Korea-related topics. This board is a central place to discuss all matters pertaining to Wikipedia's coverage of Coreana. I hope you'll drop by and help it to take shape. -- Visviva 15:09, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. --Puzzlet Chung 15:24, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiikiW

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[edit] Sea of Japan/East Sea

Hello! Currently, there is a vote over the name of Sea of Japan/East Sea in Korean contexts. If you are interested in voting, please go here. Kokiri 12:31, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Usercategorization

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Korea page as living in or being associated with Korea. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Korea for instructions. Rmky87 15:23, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Need help for my multilanguage project www.cucumis.org

Hi, I need help for my translation help project. It's a community of translators that help each others. The translations value is evaluated trough a system of points that allows to avoid abuse of the system. The user interface has been translated in many languages with this system, but it's very hard for korean, chinese, vietnamese, Hindi and north of europe languages. It's a young project and I hope you will like it! Thanks for your help! JP

[edit] GS

Hi, I notice you added Goldman Sachs to the GS disambig page when it was already there. Whilst it is definitely a valid entry (unlike some contrived and obscure computer game refs), we don't need it twice(!) Please check before you add next time. Thanks! Fourohfour 20:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The first block is one MONTH?

Chung, this is 68.102.193.78 from the Korean Wikipedia. Why did you make my block one MONTH long? I thought the first blocks are 24 hours, and that was my 1st block on the Korean Wikipedia.

I know "Kim Il-sung City" might have sounded offensive to some, but why should "Roh Moo-hyun City" (Pyongyang's supposed post-Reunification name) offend you? Wouldn't South Koreans want to embrace that?

But anyways, how were those jokes on Korea's Wikipedia severe enough to merit a one-MONTH block, instead of the usual 24 hours?

Other than that, is 1 month the minimum over there? If so, why?? --Shultz 15:58, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

There are many kinds of vandalism besides offensive activities. And yes, one month is usual in Korean Wikipedia. --Puzzlet Chung 16:04, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Here, the first block is 24 hours. Do you mean 1 month is the most lenient block on the Korean Wikipedia? Why is it that much stricter (more harsh, in case you don't know what "stricter" means)? --Shultz 16:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Shultz, you were vandalizing over in the Korean wikipedia? I'm disappointed in you. --Maru (talk) Contribs 23:09, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

So Chung, is 1 Month the minimum blocking duration or was it because redirecting Seoul to "Kim Il-sung City" and making a subsequent redirect of "Kim Il-sung City" to Seoul significantly more offensive than normal? --Shultz 09:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

No Korean Wikipedia user thinks that's just kidding. it's pretty offensive - to be blocked long terms. --Klutzy 09:09, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

So if I made an "innocent" joke edit instead, like changing "Sokcho" to "Soakchow", rather than renaming Seoul to "Kim Il-sung City", I would've gotten a shorter block?

Why do you think renaming Seoul to Kim Il-sung City much more offensive than making a random joke edit?

Shortly after, I also renamed Pyongyang to "Roh Moo-hyun City" and that couldn't have been offensive at all. In fact, South Koreans even wish for Pyongyang to be renamed. (Don't they?) --Shultz 04:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Electrolysis project

Hello, i am User:HappyApple and my interest is all related to chemistry, hence i am pursuing B.Sc. at National University of San Marcos. i have checked to Electrolysis article in Korean Wikipedia [[5]] and it has been started by a vandal with this ip, 130.149.174.10 (probably from germany) saying this :hi,wie gehts? and i have immediately reverted it by editing a proper introduction of electrolysis in korean but my grammar on korean language is not good, the article looks like orphan and it does not have an stub message on the bottom i think. I believe it is not well written, will you take a look at it?. HappyApple 00:28, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for telling this to me. --Puzzlet Chung 01:01, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Does "남북통일" equal "Korean reunification"?

On the Korean reunification article, the translation box (on the upper right corner) says that "Korean Reunification" in Korean is "nambuktongil", or "남북통일". When I searched for that phrase and found nambuktongil.com, it appeared to only describe culinary delicacies. Was the user mistaken? Since you're a more authoritative Korean, I thought I'd have you come visit that article and correct it. Please do; I'd appreciate it. --Shultz 03:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. Hwang Woo-Suk article

Hello, annyong haseyo ~ , i am user:HappyApple you know me already. I have been recently started to contribuiting in Hwang Woo-Suk article with some pictures and fixing links and something particular happened in english wikipedia just these days. User:WAS 4.250 among user:Dysmorodrepanis and user:220.72.214.248 ; i believe they were vandalizing the article by adding "biased" points of view about this korean scientist, i do not think is fair or objetive, because they have deleted content which is valuable for the article like, doctor's personal life and how society looks at him. The quality of this article has been lowered i think, i will put the lack of neutrality sign at the top of the article but i wish you take a look at it. Cheers.HappyApple 19:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Translation or something (for 싱하형)

Hi, I saw you created the article for 싱하형 on the Korean wikipedia, and the same subject appears here, but it's in Korean (and I sadly have no idea what it's about). I put it up in Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English and was hoping you could help determine what the article is about (or even translate it if you have time). - Bobet 02:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] copyright status

from my talk page: Could you tell me the copyright status of ko:Image:Deoksugung palace.jpg? --Puzzlet Chung 01:49, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Honestly, I can't remember. It's not my picture, so my guess is that I just found a picture somewhere and posted it. You may go ahead and delete it if you think it's in violation of some copyright. Drunkasian 04:30, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Legend

Hello,

I've seen that you changed the template:legend to use the "onlyinclude" tag, instead of the "includeonly" tag. I don't know why you did this, but now there's a black box incorrectly drawn in the top of the template description page. Would you mind checking it out ? Thanks. --Hdante 11:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

onlyinclude is integration of includeonly and noinclude. It shouldn't be disturbed with interwiki bots and some other things. The box at the top seems to be a software bug. I will check it out. --Puzzlet Chung 12:01, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] template:user fsm

I'm calling out a posse, to fight for freedom of choice, to fight all those who think that only their opinion's right, template:user fsm was speedy deleted by an administrator without any cause or even discussion, I'm therefore putting it up for undeletion since people have put a jihad out against opinions in userboxes. As you were one of many people using the template, I'm trying to rally you into the posse. If you think the template should be returned to active status, put in a vote at Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Userbox_debates#template:user_fsm. Janizary 04:26, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nurungji

Hello, I've created an article about Nurungji and wonder if you could check it out and make sure it's okay (as one of the top Korean experts here). Thanks! Badagnani 08:27, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] new Portal:Korea

User:Visviva has worked hard to create a brand new Portal:Korea. Please take a look & contribute if you can. I think the new Template:Korea-related topics has the potential to be a more useful reference tool than categories or lists, if editors continue to expand and update it. It's also a good reminder for help & requests on ye olde notice board. Hopefully, this will help revive some activity all around. Appleby 22:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

Hello. A userbox you are using (Template:User queer-4) has been moved to user space per WP:GUS. The new link is {{User:UBX/queersupport}}. The link currently being used on your page is a cross-namespace redirect and will not last. If you wish to keep your userbox, it is advisable to change to the new link. If you have any questions about why you are receiving this message, please read this and leave any questions you may still have on my talk page. Thank you. —Shayl^talk 06:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

~~The same thing actually goes for Template:User not censored. The new link is User:Disavian/Userboxes/Not Censored. —Shayl^talk 06:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)~~

Actually, someone else has edited your page to display them correctly, you don't need to change anything. Happy editing. —Shayl^talk 21:14, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiazi

Kiazi is a generic term used generally as a reference to potatoes, though this is not actually correct - it actually means edible root. The term should be used with a qualifier to denote the actual root being referred to: for example, yam is casually called kiazi kikuu - meaning large root, while sweet potatoes - borrowing from English usage - are called viazi vitamu - literally meaning sweet potatoes. In Kenya, kiazi is generally used to refer to the Irish Potato, and in the (very few) communities that grow yams, there are different names for the different varieties of yams - the white yam, for example, is called danga, while another variety is called mtubwi. As such, the use of kiazi to refer to a yam would be correct in much the same way that root crop would be a correct reference, in English, to cassava: technically correct but not informative enough.

Wanyonyi 11:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your bot activity

Please do not run unauthorized bot, if you wish to run a bot please request permission at WP:BRFA, thanks. --WinHunter ^(talk) 09:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked for running an unauthorized bot

Please request permission at WP:B/RFA thanks. I blocked you for 10 minutes, but that will be extended if you continue to run without requesting permission. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 02:19, 26September 2006 (UTC)

Any Bot use needs to be approved Please go to WP:B/RFA thanks Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 14:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] huzzlet slightly malfunctioning

i noticed on the goldfish article huzzlet deleted the sub-species, changing Carassius auratus auratus to just Carassius auratus. Perhaps it is programmed to delete repetitive words but in this case the repetitive words provide more information. PStrait 05:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

For an interwiki bot, that's a general behaviour when es:Carassius auratus auratus is a redirect to es:Carassius auratus. --Puzzlet Chung 09:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huzzlet the bot on zh_yuewiki

Hi PuzzletChung, your bot Huzzlet the bot has been run on the Cantonese Wikipedia. Please create a user page, and apply the bot flag at zh-yue:Wikipedia:機械人/請求核准 before making those mass edits. Thank you. --Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 16:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: onlyinclude

PuzzletChung wrote:

We do have onlyinclude tag. Inside the tag acts as is bounded by includeonly, and outside is noinclude'd. We should have onlyinclude here because interwiki links should be noinclude'd. --Puzzlet Chung 05:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the explanation, I wasn't aware of it. Unfortunately the example on the talk page now seems to be broken, perhaps you can find what's wrong with it? – Gurch 05:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and it's fixed.[6] --Puzzlet Chung 05:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This is a automated to all bot operators

Please take a few moments and fill in the data for your bot on Wikipedia:Bots/Status Thank you Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 19:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Automated message to bot owners

As a result of discussion on the village pump and mailing list, bots are now allowed to edit up to 15 times per minute. The following is the new text regarding bot edit rates from Wikipedia:Bot Policy:

Until new bots are accepted they should wait 30-60 seconds between edits, so as to not clog the recent changes list and user watchlists. After being accepted and a bureaucrat has marked them as a bot, they can edit at a much faster pace. Bots doing non-urgent tasks should edit approximately once every ten seconds, while bots who would benefit from faster editing may edit approximately once every every four seconds.

Also, to eliminate the need to spam the bot talk pages, please add Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard to your watchlist. Future messages which affect bot owners will be posted there. Thank you. --Mets501 04:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ko:User:Sandstein

this section copied from User talk:Sandstein for priority reasons

Hello, this is Puzzlet Chung, a bureaucrat of Korean Wikipedia. Please don't take it as an offense, but I'd like to know weather you are the same user as ko:User:Sandstein. This user's contribution matches the pattern of a long-time abuser who had been impersonized two voice actors and one enwiki sysop. --Puzzlet Chung 13:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for notifying me. No, I am not that user. I do not speak Korean and have never edited the Korean Wikipedia. This is possibly the work of Frogsprog (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log), who has been blocked on enwiki for vandalising Korea-related content. I've blocked some of his socks on enwiki, so he may be trying to take revenge.

I'd be grateful if you could block that impostor account, post a notice to the effect that this was an impostor on their user and talk page, and protect these pages. Best, Sandstein 14:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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