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[edit] Notes
Contributions made from this account are multi-licensed. See Ram-Man for detailed licensing information.
[edit] Bot Information
See User:rambot and the FAQ for current bot running information such as tasks and IP address. Before notifying me about any problems, please see the list of known problems on that page. Feel free to post any other important bugs and information below. And here.
[edit] Multi-Licensing FAQ
Moved to User talk:Ram-Man/MLFAQ And here.
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[edit] Rambot question
So how does he do it? Let me tell you why I asked: check out Diarmuid_Fionntain_O'Scannlain which I creating by essentially pasting http://air.fjc.gov/servlet/tGetInfo?jid=1803, a PD USGov site. 90%+ of Federal Judges on WP are redlinks, which is a shame, since they're all notable, interesting, and all the bios of all congress-confirmed federal judges of all time are available in PD in the same form (meaning that a bot could upload it) online. So do you think a bot can swing it? Rambot? Thoughts? Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- This would be great! I've been creating articles on various federal judges using the entries on that site and this would be helpful. Question for Crzrussion: Would you suggest that we include all historical federal judges or just current ones? My personal goal is to have at least a stub on each First Circuit, Second Circuit, and SDNY judge within the next month or so. Regards, Newyorkbrad 16:07, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rambot demographics suggestion/question
Are there sources that you could use to add housing and cost of living information to city articles? They are common counterpoints in non-wikipedia articles on median income, and would provide valuable context to other information that you already include in automatically generated demographics sections. MrZaiustalk 19:53, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'll look into this for future work. -- RM 21:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] RamBot for Bengali wikipedia
Hi Ram-Man, I was wondering if we could make use of your rambot in Bengali Wikipedia. We currently have almost no US city/county related pages there. If your bot is still active, I can help with creating the templates for the city/county articles in Bengali script. Thanks. --Ragib 08:18, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'm working on restarting the rambot, but it's painfully slow. Most people do not have the patience for such things. -- RM 21:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Approved request
In general, please try to let them stay transcluded for a few days or until the operator is aware. In this case it doesn't matter, but I just want to make sure that things flow smoothly for those requesting approval.Voice-of-All 18:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Once a bot has been approved and a bot flag granted, there is really nothing left to say. Adding it to the list of approved bots is sufficient at the bottom of the page is sufficient. All the links are available to the approved tasks. Leaving on the request list implies that there is still more to be done. -- RM 23:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Future census data
I've been tinkering with the Fort Hood article, and was thinking that editor changes to the articles at the wrong spot could make it difficult or impossible for Rambot to update demographic and other data, such as when the 2010 census is published. How about creating a template for this? That way, the template could be tinkered with to fix wording or spelling problems and create a more standardized look, and rambot would only have to adjust the figures listed in the template.
I've been working on Template:Update after with Rick Block, and have learned that some interesting things can be done with templates.
--Scott McNay 12:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- This has been discussed before, but nothing ever done on the topic. I'm not entirely sure whether a template is a good idea, since it is just a large amount of data and it isn't very readable for normal users who want to add information to an individual article. As for updating the articles, little changes here and there will have to be dealt with manually. It will be interesting, no doubt, but the wide majority of rambot-added articles have a consistent look-and-feel, so it shouldn't be too bad. -- RM 15:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] SatyrBot Approval
Thanks, Ram-Man, for the speedy approval! When you get a chance, could you let me know about the automatic process of adding templates to stub talk-pages? I guess I can tweak my code to do that.. I think for the moment I want to do it with overview, just to make sure I haven't messed up the python code (not my native language :) As a total aside, do you know of any PHP-driven (or anything else for that matter) GUI for pywikipedia? I searched the net to no avail, but may not have been looking in the right direction. Thanks again! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 20:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
There are others, but one currently in the approvals process is Selmobot. -- RM 13:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Template:Bots
Please see https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1619527&group_id=93107&atid=603140 →AzaToth 19:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your code submission. I think this opt-in/opt-out feature could be quite useful. -- RM 20:53, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I Need some Support
As a member of the BAG I think we need to give cyde our full support in a statement or something. Cyde is getting flak for his WP:CFD/W work we have given him the nod for this task but haven't full officially approved it though and he is taking heat over it. I thought we could draft a statement as the BAG showing our support. See: User talk:Cyde#Deletion_summaries for the full issue Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 18:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'll look into it. -- RM 19:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] User:LordAnubisBOT
Dear Ram-Man
Previously, you have granted a flag to my bot LordAnubisBOT, according to : Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/LordAnubisBOT , however, I tried to run some interwiki/warnfile processes today, but my bot didnt get a bot flag, for e.g: on Usher (entertainer).
Please advise.
Regards --Lord Anubis 01:41, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dripping Springs, Oklahoma
The tag "{{prod}}" template to the article Dripping Springs, Oklahoma, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Dripping Springs, Oklahoma. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Oo7565 04:20, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WP:BAG
Hello. I would like to be on the bot approvals group, and since you yourself are in the group, it would be great if you can stop by and either support or oppose my request. Thank you! —Mets501 (talk) 23:16, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
- I was on vacation and did not have a chance to comment, but it would have been support. -- RM 00:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Will you approve my Robot? Thank you Ram-Man. ;-) Also I am having problems getting another picture onto my page. It doesn't show up right. And, someone tried to delete it. :( Jina Lee 16:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)Jina Lee
[edit] WP:RFBOT
Your recent bot approvals request has been Denied. Please see the request page for details. -- RM 17:23, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Township Question
I brought this question up on the Illinois Portal, but was directed to you. I was told you run :User:Rambot and created such categories as Category:Townships in Michigan, Category:Townships in Ohio, and Category:Townships in Pennsylvania. I was wondering if you would be able to create a Category:Townships in Illinois by chance the same way? This would save me time researching all the different townships. Ogle County has 16 alone! Thanks for any assistance in this.--Kranar drogin 03:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Blue and Purple Morning Glory 2400px.jpg
Your image has been uploaded under its true name: Image:Ipomoea purpurea 2400px.jpg Epibase 16:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nice, thanks! -- RM 18:38, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Switchfoot GA
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Ram-Man,
Thank you very much for your help on bringing the Switchfoot article up to Good Article status. It could not have been accomplished without your help. Not, that you've edited it in a while, but you are the page's original creator, Thank you. |
[edit] Heads up
I have made a request for membership on the bots approval group. I have received only one response by User:Mets501, who suggested I drop the group a line[1] and let you know about my request. Thanks. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 04:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Portola Valley, California
I came across an interesting error in the demographics data for Portola Valley, California. It said that "Males had a median income $0 versus $92,585 for females."
It's easy to see where the error came from. If you check the US Census data [2], the figure was given as 100,000+. There can't be too many communities that had median incomes over $100,000 in 2000, but I would assume that RamBot changed all of those figures to $0. I just looked at a few of the cities listed in the Highest-income places in the United States, and most of the ones that I looked at seemed to have problems with their income numbers. BlankVerse 08:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image licensing problem on commons
Hello Ram-Man. I noticed that you have been including some additional license warnings on the images you have uploaded to commons, and I'm afraid they're a problem.
The statement "You may NOT use this image on your own web site or anywhere else unless you release this image and any derivative works (e.g. your web site) by following the terms of one of the following licenses" is contrary to the Creative Commons license, since the website (or newspaper, etc.) where the image might be used is not considered a derivative work.
I you want to release them under a licence that does not permit their use on proprietary websites or other media, you can't use the CC license (since the restriction you appear to be adding here means that the image is not free use, so actually you couldn't keep the images on commons at all). Please let us know what you'd like to do (best leave me a note on my commons user page). --SB_Johnny|talk|books 17:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- I will take this under advisement and resolve this issue as soon as possible. Please allow me some time to make the changes. -- RM 18:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- No hurry... I figured that was the case. You just need to remove that sentence and otherwise it's OK (OTOH, you really don't need any additional licensing stuff at all).
- There are bots available to make the changes en masse... let me know what changes you'd like made and I'll see if I can get it done for you. --SB_Johnny|talk|books 18:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Again, let's discuss this on your talk page, since I disagree, and at worst pictures with debated licensing are not subject to speedy deletion. -- RM 23:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Village Pump / Notability of Towns
You might be interested in WP:VPP#Town_articles. --Random832(tc) 19:11, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] bug or illegal?
Have a look at the median male income in Lonerock, Oregon. At first I thought it was vandalism, but it goes back to your creation of the article in 2002—Wow! How can I check the data? —EncMstr 18:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- The town has a population of 24, so apparently the median male salary really is $0, which isn't all that strange. The average is likely not $0, just a "lot" of unemployeed people at the time of the census. Or a bunch of liars. -- RM 20:34, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] RE:Multi-Licensing
I was looking at my talk page and noticed that you had mentioned to me "multi-licensing". I don't understand this. Please give me a simpler note. - Patricknoddy 21:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- You also called it Article Licensing. What is this? - PatricknoddyTALK (reply here)|HISTORY 23:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
- I sent you this note a while ago. In the meantime I have discontinued this, however, if I find some time, I'll explain it to you. Until then, don't worry about it for now. -- RM 03:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] census data entry
Hi, I'm a sysop on srwiki. It is my understanding that you are in control of a robot which was used to add data from U.S. census to large numbers of articles on this wiki. :)
A similar attempt at our wiki was made roughly a year ago and it ended, ehm, rather infamously. Many people were very discontent with the whole concept and then there was a whole additional mess created by the fact that we must transliterate all names into Serbian script which is a task that bot can not and no human wanted to do. Anyway.
I am actually writing for a more structural reason. We are in the process of discussing and hopefully adopting our own version of Wikipedia:Notability. Many people fail to see how random places of 25 souls each meet the basic notability criteria just because there is a set of data about it - in other words, how is it that creating articles about places based solely on statistical data does not violate "Wikipedia is not an indiscrimimnate collection of information" or lead to articles about intergalactic partcles and such.
I am sure you had a wide discussion about these issues here on enwiki. It would be great if you could point me to places where I could read some of these deliberations and what kind of consensus was reached. Any additional comments or advice would also be welcome. Thanks. (You can also leave me a message at sr:Разговор са корисником:Dzordzm if you'd wish.) --Dzordzm 01:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Sorry I forgot my talk page was semi-protected (I blocked a rather unpleasant vandal and expected him to come curse away his frustration.) I'll try to process it with others and see what comes out. --Dzordzm 03:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Burhinus capensis (moved page)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds for article title. --Stavenn 05:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- Gotcha. I've done so much work on plants, fish, this animal, that animal, and there is no consistency, so I just didn't know. Thanks for the info. -- RM 05:28, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rambot?
I was just curious: seeing all the work Rambot did on those municipality articles a few years ago, could you perhaps bring him out of retirement? Some other editors and I recently completed stubs for all Ohio townships, but virtually none of the articles have census information. Thanks! Nyttend 14:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- For the most part if the there is census data available, it should already exist. If it does not exist, it may be a real place that is not considered by the census bureau to be census designated place, that is, it will be part of another broad city, township, county, etc. As such, I do not have the data that you are requesting. Sorry! -- RM 17:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Some pages do have at least minimal census information, such as Salem Township, Jefferson County, Ohio, but most do not. Would you be able to mine pages such as the reference listed for this page? Thanks! Nyttend 19:30, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Use of Butterfly weed photo
Hi Derek,
I write and design for a newspaper called the Durham Herald-Sun. We create a quarterly, glossy magazine called Facets, for which we are now working on the spring issue.
I am writing a photo-heavy story on Unique plants for avid gardeners. A local and highly regarded botanist suggested I use Butterfly Weed as one of the plants in the story. I found your photos online and would like to use one of the flower bud closeups, with your credit of course.
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- Responded through email. -- RM 15:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Much deserved barnstar
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- Believe it or not, the rambot got a barnstar, but this is my first. Woohoo. ;-) -- RM 03:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sharing part of the Rambot database
Hi Ram-man,
I'm considering creating a bot that will add some infoboxes and new maps to many cities/towns/townships/etc in the United States. I've already created the Massachusetts ones and want to expand to the rest of the country. Right now I have a list of 38,500 articles in this category, but I need a way to map the Wikipedia article names to the US census database. Would it be possible for you to provide me with such a mapping (i.e., article names to FIPS codes, or whatever other field you use to connect to the census database)? Or perhaps you might be willing to share the entire database with me instead of just that one field? It would drastically reduce any differences in geographic/demographic information between the text of the articles and the infoboxes if we were using the same data (although I still plan on writing a bot to go through a data-dump and extract all of the geographic/demographic information from the text to help minimize the problem). Please let me know if this will be possible. --CapitalR 05:26, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- Since the bot has last run, I have not done anything with the data. It resides on archive DVDs in MySQL format. Nevertheless, the rules for naming are generally somewhat complicated and not always accurate. For example, sometimes what the rambot named the articles was later changed by moving or merging an article. Also, some municipalities have changed by absorbing others or being absorbed, so that changes everything as well. In order to get you any data, I would have to spend the time to setup MySQL (which is not installed on my computer) and setup the tables. I suppose this is possible, but in the years since I've last done anything, I have not found the time, despite all the requests. I would need a minimum of a few days to get it done anyway. But it isn't possible to get an exact one-to-one mapping without first checking the page to make sure it matches the main list (which should be 95% accurate). -- RM 15:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/CommonsDelinker
RM, regarding this speedy approval, I don't see where the trial results were ever posted, and is this still going to be operating as an anon? — xaosflux Talk 12:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've been heavily active on the commons and watching the progress of this bot in general, so I've seen it functioning. However, if you feel that a speedy approval is unmerited, feel free to change it to trial. I'll make sure that the bot logs in so we can track the changes. Also, this bot never did post a trial here on en explicitly, because the bot owner never formally requested approval, except on the meta where there was a project wide request. I consider its recent edits as a sufficient trial, just like we have done in the past with a number of other bots. Since it was approved project-wide, this request was a mere formality IMO. The bot makes a lot of edits and should be running with a bot flag, plus people will block a bot if they can't find any specific approval, so we had to do at least that much. -- RM 12:34, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bot approvals process
Just in case any of you haven't seen the new bot request to track the bot approvals process, this is just a reminder to use the correct templates at {{BAG Admin Tools}} so the bot can correctly identify the stage of bot approval. Also, the approved requests section has been moved to a separate page at Wikipedia:Bots/Approved bot requests for the Bureaucrats to watchlist. When approving a request, make sure you remove it from the main page and place it on that page so that a bureaucrat can flag it. Thanks. MetsBot 16:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Emerald Tree Boa
Dear Ram-Man, My name is Joe. I am 7 years old and in the first grade. For home work I have do a report on animals in the Rain Forest and I wanted to do snakes. My mom helped me Google Emerald Tree Boa and we found your beautiful photos. Would it be all right with you if I used a couple in my report and some to hang in my room. Love,
Joe
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.64.112.250 (talk) 19:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC).
- If you are just using it for an educational, non-commercial purpose, in this case a report and hanging them up in your room, then I think that would be fine. -- RM 23:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] RamBot
Is it possible to get the source code for rambot somewhere? 84.139.94.99 14:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- The rambot is both (mostly) inactive and the code kludgy and proprietary. That and it is broken and can't login properly for some unknown reason. You wouldn't want it anyway. Sorry. -- RM 14:13, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 1902?
1902? See your userpage. Is that intentional? Newyorkbrad 17:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- See the big red box at the top of my user page for more information. Do not trust anything said there, it is likely vandalism. I'll probably revert it soon, but it is safe to ignore it. -- RM 17:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 60 days vs 6 months
60 days is still a lot of time for Betacommand to mend his ways as compared to six months. Even after that time period, BAG would still reserve the right to bring him in or keep him in probation for another four months. So I think it's ok. I read the comments, and the community endorses the overall proposals before BC posted his his. I have kept in mind both points and also the fact that BC is still free to help out here. Sentiments are high against BC right now, but may not be so in 60 days. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds fair enough to me. Thank you for closing the debate. --kingboyk 15:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, I approve of that reasoning. Thanks for taking the time to explain it. -- RM 16:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] BAG help
I've got an issue I'd love to hear some more on at:Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Approvals_group#Another_second_opinion_needed if you have a moment. Thanks, — xaosflux Talk 03:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fishes
There is a new proposal on naming conventions for fish being discussed at WikiProject Fishes. As a member of said project group your feedback would be appreciated at the WikiProject Fishes talk page here. Cheers, David. MidgleyDJ 06:58, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Betacommandbot
Hi, I was looking into flagging Betacommandbot, but I haven't had time to wade into the whole issue. What I do see is several messages at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BetacommandBot 3 and Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BetacommandBot that say it is revoked. If indeed all the relevant discussion has been taken into account, can you adjust those pages to reflect that and let me know? I'd do it, but I'm terribly busy atm. Thank you. - Taxman Talk 14:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Newyorkbrad 00:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Township request again
Hello again. I was wondering if you would be able to finish setting up the townships for Illinois as you did in Ohio? We do not have much left, having created most of the stubs myself. Thanks for any help in doing this, it will save me a lot more labor.--Kranar drogin 03:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
