User talk:Rgfolsom
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[edit] Shooting first?
Wikipedia's Deletion policy regarding lag times calls for about a week before taking a page down. You summarily removed Robert Prechter's biography article without so much as identifying what part of the article may be in copyright violation, and you also failed to list the article on Wikipedia:Copyright_problems. Shooting first and asking questions later is hardly cordial and respectful to other editors, so I politely ask that you immediately make that article accessible, so I and other editors can address problems with the text.
Rgfolsom 15:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- I did not (and cannot) remove any page ... I merely tagged it, citing a copyrighted Web page (probably from Robert Prechter's site) that some other user had already identified ... and that was after someone had removed that user's tag. All I did was flag it again, and an administrator decided to delete it, probably after reviewing the edit history of the page, just as I had. Take it up with them, not me, because I have neither the authority nor the tools to do anything about it ... no anonymous user does, so don't bother me about this matter again. —141.156.240.102 (talk|contribs) 23:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Citations
When including a citation, it is not enough to say "New York Times 11 August 2002", as that is not enough information to find a single article in a large newspaper. Please include at the very least the title of the article, and ideally the author of the article and the page number. Thank you. Gamaliel 21:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for being on the lookout, though the citation is more than just the date and source -- I made it a link that goes the Times' bestseller list archive, which displays the relevant information.
- Rgfolsom 01:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
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- The link is useful, but only to a point. Not all users are subscribed to the Times Select pay service and you should provide an article title for those users who access the Times through other means (Lexis/Nexis, microfilm, etc.) or if the link becomes broken in the future. Gamaliel 03:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- Understood, I edited the citation to include where in that NYT issue a user can find the info. As for your comment about references on Prechter's bio, I intend to provide those and I said as much in a comment of my own. Check my history and I trust you'll agree that I've been careful to source my contributions. Thanks.
- Rgfolsom 15:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Nice work improving the Prechter article. It's in much better shape now. Gamaliel 19:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the encouraging word. I intend to make further additions and improvements to that page.
- Rgfolsom 21:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Conflict of interest
R.G., you do need to deal with the fact that as a Prechter employee and/or ally, you are the worst possible editor for Prechter articles. No matter what you feel, that fact poisons every discussion you have about Prechter-related articles. I am not going to get as toxic as Smallbones about it, but I've got to be blunt here: read the lengthy articl Canary posted, and more important: read the Wiki core articles he linked it to. Then help us edit some useful information where you don't have a conflict of interest. (If you're stumped for subjects, click the "random article" link and see what comes up!) --Orange Mike 05:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Robert Prechter
Hello,
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Robert Prechter. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Robert Prechter/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Robert Prechter/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee,—— Eagle 101 (Need help?) 04:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] no problem
Thanks for the note. No apology necessary. This kind of thing happens all the time. Bucketsofg 19:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- On this same point, I think that your editing out of my name and replacing it with "administrators" mischaracterizes the decision: this part of the Marsden decision wasn't criticizing Bearcat and me as administrators, but as editors. You might consider replacing "administrators" with "editors" there. (I'm still not convinced the Marsden decision is helpful. The problem--in my opinion, which of course is shaped by being a party--was that reliable sources only existed for negative material, which meant that the article looked like a hachet job. In the case of the Prechter article, both positive and negative material is available and the question is about balance.) Bucketsofg 20:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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- It's not really a very big deal, whether you refer to me by name or as an editor, especially since you are making your case before the arbitration committee, who knew what they were thinking when they gave that instruction. Yes, there were some aspects of the case that involved me as an admin. But when the arbcomm called on me to adhere to a certain intrepretation of BLP, they were instructing me to edit in that way. Since your point is, if I understand it correctly, that other editors should abide by that principle, I should either be named or called an editor, in my judgement. (I still don't think the principle is relevant, but I guess we'll have to disagree about that.) Bucketsofg 17:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] hey, it's a wiki!
Thanks for your note, Rg. Moving off-topic discussions to the talk page is sometimes done on AFDs, so I'm not going to move them back. But this is a wiki, so if you disagree with my changes, change them back or convince someone else to do so. Or perhaps create a link to the moved discussion. Etc., etc. Semperf 17:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Batchelor-Ramyar article
A reference to Batchelor-Ramyar might be appropriate to the Elliot Wave article, but I'm not convinced either that article, or Prechter's rebuttal, meet the standard of reliable sources: both are self-"published". Semperf 02:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding Socionomics AfD
Hello rgfolsom,
Sorry to see that the AfD re: socionomics succeeded. You fought ably and convincingly. Wikipedia is worse off for having lost the content.
Also sorry to see that my useraccount became a liability. I guess I should have seen that coming, but I simply did not.
By the way, I am considering filing a RfUC to clear my username of suspicion. I don’t know if they would take the case, but at the moment I feel it’s important to try.
Having said that, I am tired. After just a few months, I may just throw in the towel on this whole wiki experiment. Great idea, and I’m an idealist who would love to see it work. But it’s got too much stacked against it, including powerful forces within human nature itself.
For example, the other day my oldest – a senior, top 1% of her class, a great kid – came home and told me a story. She was online researching Billy Collins during her poetry class. She read something, then called out to her teacher. “Mrs. XXXXX, did you know Billy Collins toured with (such-and-such) rap group?” The teacher said, “No, I didn’t,” came over, and looked at the reference. “Hmmm, I guess so,” said the teacher. The class erupted, and everyone suddenly wanted my daughter’s ultra-cool poet for their project. Yup, Wikipedia. The next day the reference was gone.
So now we have to warn our kids about one more danger: Wikipedia. As I told my daughter, “It is not an encyclopedia. It is a message board disguised as an encyclopedia. Use it for ideas, not for information.”
Not to discourage your efforts, rgfolsom. But I, for one, am going to spend less time on a project where even the best-intentioned efforts are so readily questioned and, ultimately, thwarted.
On to other things!
MarkA12
- OK, I gave it a shot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RFCU#Outstanding_requests.
All the best,
--MarkA12 01:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reverts
This diff compares your most recent edit to the previous-but-one (also yours). It shows that, yes, you did make minor changes in addition to the revert. That is, nonetheless, a revert as defined at WP:REVERT. Out of respect to your fellow editors, you should mark your reverts as reverts. Semperf 20:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Just make sure that when you revert, you identify it as a revert. Thanks. Semperf 22:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Robert Prechter
This arbitration case has closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Smallbones is banned indefinitely from editing articles that relate to Robert Prechter, including talk pages. This notice is given by a Clerk on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. Newyorkbrad 01:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Colvin quote in Prechter article
I am trying to maintain a truly neutral stance here. The Colvin quote, in my opinion, is NOT outside the boundaries of reasonable discourse. It is a harsh criticism, but is useful there to balance the generally favorable tone of most of the article. The heading is "Criticism" not "Minor quibbles." --Orange Mike 14:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Invitation
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