User talk:SilkTork/Graveyard
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[edit] Freeway/motorway/whatever category
--SPUI (T - C) 19:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I finally did it.
Yes, I've been less active than I should be lately, but after a few gentle prods I finally put my two cents into the brewery poll. :) – ClockworkSoul 20:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Giant Beer Bottle - just for fun !
Textbot 09:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC)Here's a link to a bottle really in my kitchen ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Karlsson_bottle.jpg#filelinks I think you will enjoy. Thanks for your beer work !
[edit] Hi, and some questions.
I've been wondering, is there a way to know what sites need to be addressed? Or rather, is there some sort of outline/list that states problem/incomplete beer sites that need to be updated or expanded? I'd be more than happy to help out, in any way possible, but I feel like a may be stepping on toes.
I am not entirely familiar with the behind the scenes wikipedia, such as this, but I am rather knowledgeable about beer. Specifically the Great Lakes region of craft breweries, and more specifically yet, Wisconsin craft breweries.
Again, I'm more than happy to contribute, but any input/advice/mentoring would be greatly appreciated, and I would love to continue sharing my knowledge with the rest of my fellow beer/wikipedia lovers.
thanks in advance
sean
[edit] The Round Table
So you didn't think much of The Round Table, then? Warning: avoid the place on the 2nd of September. Noisy | Talk 23:17, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Homelessness article -- part removed ?
Hi Steve. Anonymous contributor User:70.191.174.29 (User_talk:70.191.174.29) just removed your addition "The problem in developed countries" from 8th July 2006 to the article on Homelessness citing it as an "op-ed". I think it was meant to be balanced in your writing, so I will try to re-insert it. I don't know what will happen after that. Perhaps discussion. One avoids edit wars ! Best Wishes. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:21, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice. I do remember doing some work on that article when it lacked direction. I hope it has kept both a sense of direction, a worldview and a balance which I put into it. After that, well, it's up to others. The problem with Wiki is the people who mess up decent articles - possibly in good faith, but lacking in insight and knowledge. SilkTork 00:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] How's things?
Just lookin' in to say Hi, and that I've just copied your pic of Rochester bridge onto Wikimedia Commons, which is a central library for all the Wikimedia Foundation projects (eg other language Wikipedias). You can upload stuff directly there, rather than at Wikipedia, if you want to make it generally available.
D'you know, whenever I see your pic, I think, "But I know this guy." I left Medway in 1987, so I doubt it. On the other hand, I was at school (John Fisher) with a bunch of Pereiras, but I'm about 13 years younger than you, so that can't be it either...
People you surely do know (are one of?) however, are The Medway Poets - with their very own article! Wow. User:Tyrenius has been asking me for more material on them, but I'm not in a position to find much. Something you'd like to do, or are they The Enemy?
Congrats on wedding, btw - hope you it is/was a blast. JackyR | Talk 21:33, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
...And maybe I'll even put this on your Talk page, rather than in your archive... (*sigh*) JackyR | Talk 21:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hi. I will get back to you shortly. You sound like an interesting person. Thanks for the congrats! SilkTork 22:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image:Bitter-example.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Bitter-example.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
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- You're right. And at some point someone may - or may not - use another image in the article. Thanks for keping me informed. SilkTork 22:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Faluche
I saw from history of Bitard that you had translated the article from French, so I suppose I can assume that you are a French speaker. I also found the related article Faluche, which looks like it had been machine-translated or translated by someone who is not a native English speaker. I did a lot of cleanup on it in an attempt to fix the English, but I am not a French speaker, so some of it was not clear to me as to how it should be translated. If you have the time and inclination, perhaps you might have a go at it. The article also exists in the French Wikipedia. The article is actually pretty interesting and needs to be cleaned up somewhat. •DanMS 23:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] beer articles
Are you still contributing to wiki beer articles? I was on the receiving end of so much ill-informed abuse when I tried to correct some of the glaring errors they conatin that I´ve given up. Are there any Europeans involved any more?Patto1ro 12:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Now that you are here I might be encouraged to get involved again. If you look at some of the history you might note that I encountered a lot of hostile flack a while ago. I lost interest after that. SilkTork 10:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I've given up because I was spending too much of my valuable time arguing with idiots. Mikebe is continuing the struggle. MAybe you should have a word with him.Patto1ro 10:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] beer discussion
Hi. Could you please stop by the beer project talk page and contribute your thoughts to the discussion of removing US POV material from non-US beer pages? Many thanks. Mikebe 13:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re: I'm Back!
Welcome back. Glad to see you're willing to continue your involvement in the WP:Beer project since it needs all the help it can get. I don't think anything particularly interesting happened while you were away, given that the project is generally so quiet. For my part, I unified the components of the "brewbox" and "beerbox" into {{Infobox Brewery}} and {{Infobox Beer}} (except for the beer lists in the brewbox, which I know you're not a fan of). I also did some category reorganization, creating Cat:WikiProject Beer templates and Cat:WikiProject Beer participants; not sure if I did that before or after you left. The participants category hasn't gotten much adoption aside from me and User:Daniel11 (the person who started WP:Beer). I think personally it's a lot cooler than a participants list on the project page, since I generally don't add myself to those lists. Mike Dillon 16:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Beer Portal
Hi, I'd be happy to talk to you about the beer portals. I have been a avid Wikipedia reader and a serious beer drinker myself for quite some time and only recently discovered there was a Beer Portal. I have been putting up the links just to increase awareness for the Wikiproject and hopefully bring others who could potentially help to it.--BrokenStoic 15:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Hiya. Sorry to disapeer for a few days. I don't think the portal link needs to be at the top of every page, but putting it at the bottom in "More Information" wouldn't be a bad idea, just to let people know it's out there, but without having it dominate the article itself. Certainly see what others have to say about it though.--BrokenStoic 03:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
Hi, have encountered your contributions on various sites including beerintheevening.com and ratebeer.com... glad to see you here too! --SandyDancer 23:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stout
The co-editing was my fault. I tend to notice articles when they pop up on my watchlist and consequently tend to edit them at the same time as other users. Stout is looking good. I like the references. — goethean ॐ 23:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- Cool. SilkTork 10:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hackney
It's the title of a record [1], which tells the tale of a young man's first experience of a Squat party in Hackney, oddly enough! One Night In Hackney 02:36, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Interesting. Sounds like the night in Kent was even worse. Guy can't even speak after THAT experience! SilkTork 02:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reviving the dead
You're of course welcome to revive discussion about the beer page, but removing the "historical" tag doesn't really accomplish that. I'd advise you to advertise the page (e.g. at the village pump) to draw in more participants. >Radiant< 09:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- Mmmm. So should I have left the "historical" tag on the page even when I am reviving the discussion and moving it to a wider audience? I'm not quite sure of the purpose or benefit of your historical tag. If you could explain the purpose of it I might see the value of putting it back. SilkTork 10:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- No, feel free to remove it, but when I made my statement here you hadn't moved the page to a wider audience. It's just that I sometimes get people who think that the historical tag stops people from discussing the matter, and that removing the tag will magically cause more people to weigh in. >Radiant< 10:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's cool. And the purpose of the tag? At the time the page was embedded in the Beer Project pages. There are other pages in the Project that haven't been edited for a while - should those pages also get "historical" tags? What does the "historical" tag actually do? SilkTork 10:39, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- No, just the proposals. The tag is simply an indication that "there is, at present, no ongoing debate on this, so you shouldn't expect an answer if you make a post on the talk page here". It's just there to indicate this to people, and doesn't really "do" anything. >Radiant< 10:52, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I think that makes sense. But without the tag the proposal is still open, and people can add to it. The tag itself discourages participation and involvement. Would you be good enough to point me to the discussion that took place when that tag was created? SilkTork 13:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Because the red cross and general tone of the tag might put editors off reviving the discussion, I have changed the image and reworded the tag to reflect what I hope is the intention of the tag while at the same time not discouraging further debate. What do you think? SilkTork 14:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think you're missing the point here :) there was no discussion to add that tag, that tag is added precisely because of the fact there was no discussion. It's explained somewhat at WP:POL, though. >Radiant< 23:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
I didn't make myself clear. I meant what was the general intention of the tag, and where was the discussion to set up the tag in the first place so I could see what the intention was. But, with you help, I've worked it out, and I've made what I feel is the appropriate alterations to the tag to make it appear less hostile. The way it stood, with a red cross, it appeared as though the person placing the tag was making a decision that the discussion was over, even though the person placing the tag may not be fully informed of the issues. A slight shift in wording, and it should now look as though a person is suggesting that, to use your words, "you shouldn't expect an answer if you make a post on the talk page here", which is a friendly and helpful point to make. SilkTork 11:28, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Czech beer
Hey SilkTork. How do you like the photo I added some time ago at the top of the article? Isn't that just the healthiest looking mug of dark lager you ever saw? Took it myself on a visit to the Klásterní Pivovar Strahov, Prague. I wanted to ask - do you think that microbrewery needs / deserves an article? --SandyDancer 00:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
It appears to be a very minor brewery. There has been some discussion on the notability of breweries. Take a look: Wikipedia:Notability (breweries). You are welcome to add your own comments, and/or edit the proposal itself. While not conclusive, there was a general feeling that breweries could be started off in a regional article. So a mention of Klásterní Pivovar Strahov in the Czech beer article would be a good starting point. Any references or sources you have would be very welcome. SilkTork 00:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Beer Style Chart
I noticed you put in a chart on the Beer style page. I was wondering if we could chat a bit about it. I think the use of an image in that manner makes it entirely too cubersome to edit, especially for an issue as contengious as beer style can be. I relaize it may be a rough draft but I feel like it might not be the best avenue to pursue. (Full Disclosure-I have been working on the Beer style box, which pretty much covers the same info.)--BrokenStoic 08:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I totally agree. It was put on the main beer page, and I moved it to the beer style page. I added the comment that it was one particular view out of many, just to tone it down a bit. Then I was going to raise the issue with others - including the guy who placed it on the beer page. I haven't yet got around to the raising the issue part. SilkTork 08:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- I think we might be crossing wires here. See my notes on Talk:Beer style. --Stlemur 08:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
It looks to me like we're in agreement. The style chart is awkward as currently presented, but there may be some value in having an example or two of such charts in the article. SilkTork 00:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
