Talk:Sir James Stronge, 9th Baronet

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[edit] Disputed fact tag

I have deleted this sentence as original research: They have never provided evidence that the 86-year old man had any connection whatever with those assassinations. That type of comment must be sourced - meaning that we need a reliable source that states that the IRA has failed to provide this evidence. Since it's not sourced, and one user has refused to allow a {{fact}} tag to stay on it, then the only solution is for the sentence to come out. | Mr. Darcy talk 20:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

How does one prove that they have provided no evidence that he had any connection with assassinations? - Kittybrewster 20:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

You have to find a reliable source that's said it, or someone quoted by a reliable source. Then you can quote them. Tyrenius 22:46, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

One cannot find a source that something was not said!--Couter-revolutionary 22:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I am happy with the present text suggested by Tyrenius. Well done. - Kittybrewster 22:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

It's a little clumsy, but it meets WP:V. Incidentally, the answer to the question about sourcing is this: You would need to find a source that says something like, "The IRA has never provided evidence to connect Sir Stronge to those assassinations." In other words, if a reliable source says that the IRA didn't provide the evidence, then that's good enough for Wikipedia. Does that make sense? | Mr. Darcy talk 00:36, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes it does. I just don't find myself very convinced by author Tim's implied unsourced and unverified slur about a respected 86-year old victim. - Kittybrewster 00:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

WHo was he respected by? Not the nationalist community thats for sure. I havea great quote from Gerry Adams that I am just about to put into the article which pretty much clears up the view of the nationalist community with regards this man.--Vintagekits 00:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The Queen and many others. Who is Gerry Adams I wonder? - Kittybrewster 01:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Wrong, Vintagekits. There is a quote saying how he was respected by the nationalist community in the article! He was much more respected than the IRA who are descrived as "dregs of society" - highly aprropriate!--Couter-revolutionary 09:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Please try and remember WP:NPOV and more importantly WP:CIVIL. regards--Vintagekits 19:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Now that the text has reached a point where everyone is satisfied, I suggest that we close this particular discussion. | Mr. Darcy talk 21:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)