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[edit] Never wake a sleepwalker
A common myth surrounding this disorder is that one should never wake a sleepwalker while they are engaged in the activity. In truth, there is no implicit danger in waking a sleepwalker, though the subject may be disoriented or embarrassed when awakened.
Any second opinion on that?
- I added that. I found it on a sleep disorder web site, which looked pretty authoratative (it's probably at one of the external links). If you found conflicting evidence, we can discuss it. Next time, sign your post. You can do this with 3 or 4 tildes (~~~ or ~~~~). Peace. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:00, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
I am currently enrolled in an A.P. Psychology course and in fact just finished a quiz recently on this subject. In my class and in my textbook, it stated that you should not wake a sleepwalking person when they are engaged in a dangerous person. Since the article states this, you should know that the person will become very disoriented when they are awoken. This disorientation would cause the sleepwalking person to be more likely to be hurt. Instead of waking them, you should speak to them calmly and ask them what they are doing. After they reply, you should continue speaking calmly and tell them that you will take care of whatever they were doing and tell them to go back to bed. They will usually comply. Just thought I would add this for discussion before posting.
- Jtconroy88 22:12, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
I totally agree with you. It is best to ask the sleepwalker what he/she is doing. They will probably answer and go back to bed.
There is a big difference between startling a sllepwalker enough to hurt themselves by maybe falling down, and getting your butt kicked for waking up a sleepwalker. Just because you shouldn't wake a sleepwalker doesn't mean you should never because you will DIE! 24.110.21.111 04:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Personal Experience
From time to time, I've gotten up out of bed and got to the door of my room - usually I thought that I needed to leave and go elsewhere. My eyes were open at the time. Usually I'd get as far as the door to my room, then wake up the rest of the way long enough to go back to sleep. It only happens occasionaly. I can go a few years, have this happen a couple times, then go a long time again with it not happening. Would that qualify as sleepwalking?
JesseG 04:36, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
- I am not a doctor, but it sounds like it to me. — Frecklefoot | Talk 13:34, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)
in my psych class the professor said you shouldnt wake a sleepwalker because they will jhust go into stage 5 sleep (REM sleep) and that will result in them just falling to the ground fast asleep, which can hurt them if you arent properly prepared. He said to just lead them back to bed and make them lie down and they'll drift off on their own, no harm done.
yeah sometimes when i play my xbox all day i like sleepwalk at night around. my mum has to tell me to go back to bed even though i'm asleep
[edit] Half-sleep
I'm not sure if this belongs here, fix if necessary. I have experienced a sort of half-sleep on many occasions over the last 10 years or so. I remain aware during this state. My body movement is locked down, presumably because of a part of the brain that evolved to stop our ancestors and other animals becoming easy food when sleepwalking. I remember reading of an experiment where researches destroyed that particular part of a cat's brain (cruel bastards), and when the cat went to sleep and entered REM, it moved around, 'chasing imaginary prey'.
Anyway, I find in that state I am able to retain some degree of control. I have been able to open my eyes and look around, and can make limited movements of limbs. When I enter that state, I can hear odd sounds, either rapid high pitched pulsing, or, as happened a few days ago, ultra-rapid 'noise' (for lack of a better term). I can always wake up properly by concentrating. I am seriously not making this up. I would love to learn more about this. Is there a sleep doctor in the house?
DooMDrat 01:48, Dec 5, 2004 (AEST)
- I experience that state from time to time. It is called sleep paralysis. Some people prefer to call it awareness during sleep paralysis, but it's the same thing. Check out the links I just provided to read up on it. Regards. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 23:34, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Photo
We need a photo for this article!
- Just take a photo of yourself doing that classic "sleepwalker pose". Just joking. :P --Rachel Cakes 04:00, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Can't some just be quick with a camera with a big fat flash, and capture a family member sleepwalking? hehe --Ysangkok 09:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Urination
I added the urination part which is usually seen in sleepwalking children cases.
Klesk
Thanks for your contribution. I reformatted it a bit, but it would be great if you could add a reference source for that piece of information. JoachimK 17:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Yep I have resources "http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/slpwalking.html", this is one of them." In some sleepwalking cases, the child may urinate in an innappropriate place". It also advices that sleepwalkers should empty their bladder before going to bed.
Klesk
[edit] hypnotism
The term "somnambulism" seems to be used by hypnotists as a synonym for a hypnotic state (or maybe for a certain type of hypnotic state). Does anyone know more about this?
Somnambulism is actually the scientific name for Sleepwalking, but I guess people use it to define trances as well.
Klesk 16:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, not that anyone really cares about these things, the word is Latin: somnus (noun) sleep and ambulare the infinitive "to walk". The scientists came along later. David91 17:17, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sleepwalking statistics
The current statistics do not make sense to me:
'Somewhere between 1% and 17% of U.S. children sleepwalk, and juveniles are seen to be those more prone to the activity. Some 18% of Americans are prone to the act, roughly 2 in 11 of the US population One study showed that the highest prevalence of sleepwalking was 16.7% for children of 11 to 12 years of age. Boys are seen to be more likely to sleepwalk than girls.'
The first is fine, but the second implies that children are 'less' likely to sleepwalk. If 17% of U.S. children sleepwalk and 18% of all U.S. citizens sleepwalk, the percentage of of non-children would have to be higher than that of children. The paragraph immediately before this contradicts this.
The third statistic conflicts with the second as well: if the highest prevalence was 16.7% the overall average should be below that number, not above. Even if 100% of the population were children of 11 to 12 years of age it could not be raised. Possible explanations of this are the note that this was "one study" and also no mention of the U.S. is made. At any rate, I am now confused and none of the four have specific references. MrHen 23:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm removing them for now because stone cold told me to. 24.110.21.111 04:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Citations
This article is in desperate need of citations. I'm going to keep it on watch and make sure some citations are put in. 09:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
I tried looking up some citations however searching led me back to the Dement stanford.edu page which cites an unspecific "medical report" with regards to the statistics. Looking for that report proved troublesome since most hits resulted in "pay to play" dissertation sites that require a fee before accessing any of their hosted papers/documents. There was a newspaper article at "The Age.com" that used the same statistic however I don't think that passes the litmus test established in the Style Guide. Revlon 22:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Videos?
ARe there any videos of Sleep walkers available? Kotenks 00:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Expert Attention
Can this sort of article be tagged as needing Expert Attention? All the males in my family sleepwalk, and I'm surprised to see Wikipedia has a poor article for it, as I wanted to know more about it.
Often I get out of bed, change clothes, and go back to bed; a few times I have moved around my room and it has been utterly unfamiliar/I've been in another place; and often I imagine people in my room or in my bed. My brother once went out to the backyard because the dog apparently buried his wallet, and he got violent when I tried reasoning with him.
We all sleeptalk too, alot.Aeronox 05:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Still no citations
Hi guys. I'm DrowningInRoyalty here, again. I'm still waiting on those citations. I really don't have the time to do so, so I'd appreciate if someone could go out and get them. If not, well, I'll try and gather up some of my time to gather reasonable sources and add the citations and remove what is false. Thanks. DrowningInRoyalty
[edit] Change 'Trivia' Head
Maybe we should change the 'Trivia' section to 'In Popular Culture'? Or add the headline? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Digitalapocalypse (talk • contribs) 23:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] symptoms
the article makes it sounds like just being extremely tired and slow reaction time classifies as sleepwalking. i always thought of sleep walking as actual sleeping with eyes closed while walking around and doing stuff.
[edit] Sleeping pills and sleepdriving
I've read some reports recently that sleeping pills can cause "sleepdriving". Perhaps someone can update the article with that information? 70.17.148.120 21:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sleep Murder
There have been serveral cases of people appearantly commiting murder while sleepwalking: [1], [2], [3]. 70.17.148.120 21:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
